Single mixes that were considerably different from the original

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I am not speaking just editing the song down to 3 minutes or changing the snare drum, it needs to be considerably different to be considered here. A few examples of songs that were obviously quite different sounding in the 7" mix:

Pet Shop Boys: Suburbia
Pet Shop Boys: Heart
Pet Shop Boys: I Wouldn't Normally Do This Kind Of Thing
Depeche Mode: Behind The Wheel
Depeche Mode: In Your Room
Madonna: True Blue

Any others?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Fiery Furnaces obvs.

― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

biggie - one more chance

― Dr J Bowman (Dr J Bowman), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Hmm. Reminds me of "California Love" although the album remix may have been a single too?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

The Monkees' "The Porpoise Song"

The single added a coda missing from the album version.

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

(or rather didn't edit out the coda)

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Bit like Sagittarius's "My World Fell Down", which adds a huge middle part in the single version.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Prolapse "Autocade"

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

biggie's single is the same song in title only really - didn't realise california love is diff from album version

― Dr J Bowman (Dr J Bowman), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

New Order "Bizarre Love Triangle"

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

thing is, BLT had several single versions as well... it was a matter of how much each mix borrowed from either the Hook-less 12" dance mix, or the album version.

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Actually, New Order would qualify easily for this thread really... just to name a coupoe: "Subculture", "Run", "

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Placebo? No enormous changes, but I prefer the album versions of most of their singles.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Moloko - Sing It Back (the Boris Dlugosch remix was the single)
Robin S - Show Me Love (the Stonebridge remix)
Tiesto - Just Be (single version was the remix by Antillas)

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Saint Etienne "Hobart Paving"

― Gary Shipes, Monday, 15 May 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Darkthrone - Too Old Too Cold

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Luscious Jackson "Naked Eye"

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Outdoor Miner by Wire: another one that added a bit in the middle (album version was well under 2 mins).

― eyesteel (eyesteel), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Terrorvision - Tequila
Cornershop - Brimful Of Asha

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Come to think of it, the electronica genre in general fits in here. Compare those early Leftfield singles to the ones that ended up on "Leftism", for instance.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Cornershop - Brimful Of Asha

This was originally released on single in the same version as on the album.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Arrested Development, "People Everyday"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Geir thats not the version that got to no1 in the UK charts.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I know. But it was a single. The other one was the remix of the single.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

The Cure - "Close To Me" (The whole trumpet part was added for the single)

― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

"Music is for idiots and neanderthals"

― lf (lfam), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Tears for Fears' "Mothers Talk," iirc.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Japan "Adolescent Sex"

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

XTC "This is Pop?"

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

I forgot about the most obvious of all the Pet Shop Boys singles: "It's Alright". Hardly recognizable from the album version.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Sweet "Fox On The Run"

(original UK album version on Desolation Blvd. is an early rawer mix. The U.S. version, released a year or so later, used the single mix on the album. Also, it was this song that caused the rupture between Chinn/Chapman and Sweet, as Sweet and their label hired outside producers to redo the song while C/C were on vacation.. latter were pissed when they came home and heard what happened, and vowed to not work with Sweet again.)

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Also, Funkadelic rule this thread.. all their singles were pretty much massively remixed edits mastered to mono.

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:03 (twenty years ago)

björk - "all is full of love"

― aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Insert a gazillion indie rock bands that released a 7", then re-recorded the same song for the subsequent album.

― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Jennifer Lopez, "Ain't It Funny"

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

U2 - who's gonna ride your wild horses (Temple Bar Edit vs. album version)

(one of the other Achtung Baby singles, "Even Better Than The Real Thing" was just like Brimful Of Asha: first released as a single, but a bigger hit when remixed (in this case Paul Oakenfold's Perfecto Mix) )

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Adverts - "One Chord Wonders." I'm at work and parted with my copies of both single and LP some time ago anyway, so darned if I can remember why, but I seemed to prefer the single.

― Handsome Dan, Monday, 15 May 2006 21:25 (twenty years ago)

more slightly off topic "bigger hit after it was remixed and rereleased" : Everything But The Girl - Missing (original vs. Todd Terry remix), Suzanne Vega - Tom's Diner (original acapella vs. DNA Soul II Soul-beat using remix)

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Primal Scream had a couple too (further discussed on is Primal Scream's "Dirty Hits" the most worthless best-of ever? )

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm having a hard time not including video versions, by the way. e.g. Metallica's One (with the movie samples), Ministry's Just One Fix (live version with Burroughs), Joy Division's Love Will Tear Us Apart live version, Royksopp's Remind Me (video was Someone Else's Remix) - but those weren't necessarily the single versions.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 May 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Pulp- Countdown, Disco 2000
Beach Boys- Help Me Rhonda, Be True to Your School
Joy Division- She's Lost Control
Belle and Sebastian- The State I am In

― D. Bachyrycz, Monday, 15 May 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

What were the changes to "Disco 2000" other than more powerful drums and an escalating synth effect prior to the chorus?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Also, Funkadelic rule this thread.. all their singles were pretty much massively remixed edits mastered to mono.

Did they release mono singles in 1978?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

"What were the changes to "Disco 2000" other than more powerful drums and an escalating synth effect prior to the chorus?"

There's a couple short spoken lines ...

Yeah ... It's all over now/
you've paid your money/
and taken your choice/
But I just wanted you to know/
I remember every single thing.

― Mark Swiderski, Monday, 15 May 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

The Wedding Present, "Brassneck". The quick guitar jangle which was (up to that point) the basis of the band's sound is replaced on the single version by fairly generic electric-guitar muddling. Why? Steve Albini, that's why.

― Pessimist (Pessimist), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

"What were the changes to "Disco 2000" other than more powerful drums and an escalating synth effect prior to the chorus?"

There's the spoken bit Mark cites, but there also several additional keyboard parts, most noticeably laid over the main Gloria riff and replacing the descending guitar figure during the chorus.

― D. Bachyrycz, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:08 (twenty years ago)

Talking Heads' "Houses In Motion" has a totally different mix for the 7" which also adds in an entire extra verse at the end. I can't believe it wasn't reissued along with the new batch of remasters.

― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)

OK, I guess you guys are right. It's just that personally I like the single version so much better I hardly ever listen to the album version (which, I guess, proves the single version is considerably different anyway :) )

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:22 (twenty years ago)

"Big Time Sensuality"! I was SO disappointed when I got Debut and discovered the keyboard-preset dance-by-numbers take on this song. The single (or was it just for the video?) remix is cheese too, but it's cheese with an airy majesty.

"Help Me Rhonda" is an excellent pick. Less severe but famous among the diehards, the Beatles' "Love Me Do," which IIRC actually features a different drummer and maybe some other differences of note.

I remember having some difficulty tracking down the version of Ludacris's "Southern Hospitality" that features in the video - the one where instead of just an endless repetition of the main beat, the ending consists of Ludacris repeating "We drop 'bows on 'em!" (Obligatory tangent: for the longest time I thought it was "We drop bones on 'em!", which, of course, is better. We don't just kill them, we bury them in other people's bones!)

"Southern Hospitality" also has that Missy thing going on in the video where they cut into another song from the album briefly. I suppose this doesn't really count as a "single mix," but it definitely changes the way the song is experienced. "One Minute Man," for example, is livened up considerably by that freaky part in the middle where she's crawling along the floor like a snake, whatever that song is. "Woo-Ha!" feels just a little more weird and sinister with "Everything Remains Raw" tacked onto the beginning, etc. Is there a thread about this somewhere?

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 03:05 (twenty years ago)

"Love Me Do" was a different recording with a different lineup, and as such you can say it was considerably different.

Even if I have problems hearing the difference between the two versions.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:13 (twenty years ago)

You can't be listening to the real two versions then.

McCartney's bass playing is very plunk plunk on the first version. There's tambourine on the second.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Mansun's "Six" single was very different to the album mix!

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

st etienne: 'you're in a bad way'
warren g/nate dogg: 'regulate'
cassius: '1999' (iirc)

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)

MC Lyte's "Cold Rock a Party." Almost unrecognizable as the same song.

The album, single & video versions of the Who's "Eminence Front," I believe, all have different endings.

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Unrest - Isobel

― Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:27 (twenty years ago)

eminem: that one track about having a guilty conscience, um.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)

TRUE BLUE ? *really* ??

i must hear that cause i only know the lp version.

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

it always seems that the monochrome set had a different version for album vs single for every single.

felt's "sunlight bathed the golden glow" -- each version is quite unique. the album version so full and bright. the 12" version so spare and raw, the 7" version a similar base + a backup choir and ethereal guitar.

― Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Album mix of "Subculture" >>>>>>>>>>>>> Single mix of "Subculture"

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna ask the same thing about "True Blue". How is it different from the album version? (x-post)

Also, "Express Yourself" fits here. I like the album mix better.

― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

"True Blue" sounded considerably more "organic" in its single version, doing the 60s thing more fully-fledged, without the obvious synth sounds of the original Stephen Bray version.

In the case of "Express Yourself", I think there were several single mixes. None of them quite like the album one though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Album mix of "Subculture" >>>>>>>>>>>>> Single mix of "Subculture"
-- Curt1s, et al. (curtis.stephen...), May 16th, 2006.

you sir are on the crack.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if that was the single version, but I saw the video of "1-800-Suicide" by Gravediggaz for the the first time on the rap Youtube thread, and it had totally different lyrics than the album version, changing a darkly humorous song into a much more serious one.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 09:03 (twenty years ago)

R-Kelly : Ignition, Step in the name, Sex in the kitchen...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)

the bassline sound on the dare/single versions of the human league's "sound of the crowd" are spectacularly different. given that the single version came first (i think), i can't understand why they changed it.

The quick guitar jangle which was (up to that point) the basis of the band's sound is replaced on the single version by fairly generic electric-guitar muddling. Why? Steve Albini, that's why.

you mean "the quick guitar jangle's balls dropped and it became a mighty thing of crushing wonder", surely?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

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