The more complete "artist" dylan or bowie

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i hesitate to start this, but

who has lead a career as a more complete artist? what i mean is who walks through it all (atleast publicly) with more complete mask?

Dylan has often spoken about the bob dylan mask, there's the whole renaldo and clara thing, constant revision of his past and future, and so on.

Bowie might constantly revise, but he seems to be too obviously playing with what his public role is. In comparison to dylan it seems almost too plastic.

thoughts?

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

it takes two bowls of bowie to get the vitamins and minerals you'd get in one bowl of dylan.

― punis (punis), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

but you get a decoder ring in every box of bowie

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

bowie is made mostly of oil and fat. But 4 ounces of quality milk go into every slice of dylan.

― punis (punis), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

THE EW ERA BEGINS ON ILM.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:52 (twenty years ago)

i've been here 4-5 years now, actually.

― punis (punis), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Reading Dylan's book currently and it's almost frightful that he has the audicity to write such a great book -- adding to the litany of his other genius qualities. It's too much. Anyway, Dylan cooks Bowie over the campstove.

― mcd (mcd), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

hah dom, that's what I thought when I saw the subject, but then I saw who posted it. Ben's got nothing to prove to y'all...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)

id agree, but has any other popular musician ever really gone as far into non-reality as dylan? or self created reality, perhaps....

thanks dan...im actually positing this legitimately...ive been reading the interviews book and man..the humanity never seems to exist...but then again, it does...theres a lot of humanity, but very little human...

loving the alien?

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

and with as much effect for the affect?

how many dylan threads do we have here? shedloads! now, everyone expects bowie to be a complete projection. plenty of people think that dylan is faking it too. but on the whole dylan: credible genius; bowie: fabulous artist...but i think bob is actually the bigger artist

― bb (bbrz), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

To wax abstract a bit, it always seemed to me that there was very little personality to the entity we know as "Bob Dylan." He's like a wind that blows through a field. More a mirror or a conduit than a singular force. A mysterious concept or consciousness more than an identity. It's very difficult for me to articulate this feeling I get from his music. His music feels like it formed from beyond the boundaries of a solitary individual (certain songs of his really give me a strong sense of this, like "Hard Rain," for example).

Bowie, on the other hand, seems like someone who forcibly underwent changes in his persona, image, and music as a means of marketing himself to the world, and maybe even because he was unsure of or uncomfortable with who he was. His approach never rang true or honest to me, although he also made some good music.

― punis (punis), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Bob Dylan was cool, until he became 'Bob Dylan'

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

taking sides: BOWIE vs DYLAN

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Bob Dylan was cool, until he became 'Bob Dylan'

What the fuck does that mean? 1961?

― p@reene (Pareene), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Matos saves us all. To the other thread, boy wonders. And girl wonders.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:17 (twenty years ago)

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