Anyway, in this thread I'm going to occasionally request that a particular ILXor sally forth and discuss their relationship to a particular musical artifact which I'm pretty sure they do have an opinion on, mostly b/c I'm curious. In the spirit of giving, I'll allow everyone else to play too.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)
Bahtology: Jonatha Brooke & The Story - Plumb
Tim on whatever he thinks the worst singles he's heard are by both:
Bobby OThe Neptunes
And why.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Monday, 24 July 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)
― darin (darin), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)
; )
― It's Rodney, currently unemployed! (R. J. Greene), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 July 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 July 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Monday, 24 July 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
― LC (Damian), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)
I hear that's what Keats means by negative capability.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
Ned to be honest I don't know if I can identify/remember enough Bobby O to have a least favourite! I like "She Has A Way" and "I'm So Hot For You" and think The Flirts "Passion" is the best thing ever. But apart from that I'm blanking. This is an oversight I realise.
The Neptunes
The opposite problem with The Neptunes: they've had so many lacklustre/"just okay" productions that it's impossible to single out one.
I guess a boring Neptunes production would be something like Jay-Z's "Allure" - there's just nothing there to care about, it's very limp. Also I don't like "Ballad For A Fallen Soldier" very much, but that's mostly b/c of Pharrell. I guess circa 2001 there were a couple of anonymous productions like Ray J's "Wait A Minute". But mostly almost any third party Neptunes productions that were released as singles were at least quite good. Like, while there's obviously a drop in quality from "Hot In Herre" to "Flap Your Wings", the latter is still kinda nice. Most truly anonymous/crappy Neptunes productions were buried as album cuts.
In terms of actively bad, it's almost exclusively N.E.R.D./Pharrell stuff: "She Wants To Move", "Maybe", "Can I Have It Like That"... But I think that the new Pharrell collab-o with Kanye West hits a new low, both contributions are so painful. And with these it's not even so much the production specifically as the entire song (of which production is a component yes), the hubris colliding with blandness and just obviously wrong stylistic and musical decisions that you'd think the people involved would be too professional to make.
It will be interesting to see what happens next with The Neptunes, they usually bounce back from their lowpoints (e.g. following up Fly Or Die with the run of great singles from the last Snoop album) but usually not as high as before. They're doing the first single from Ludacris's new album apparently, which is the first they've done with him since "Southern Hospitality" I think.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 30 July 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)
― It's Rodney, unsuccessfully trying to impersonate Geraldo! (R. J. Greene), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)
― It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)
What, and have you guys get all curious and start downloading the stuff and costing me thousands of dollars in infringed copyright? I'm not falling for that old trick!
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Monday, 31 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)
(seconding Lex's request to Tim btw).
― fandango (fandango), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
Fixed.
― fandango (fandango), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
uffie is better than pharrell though, yes.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)
WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE DEL AMITRI SONG???
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 31 July 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
Nothing...nothing is a concept especially embodied in the works of (heh, no more)
Don't Come Home Too Soon is probably the best WC song since World In Motion and I haven't heard any more Del Amitri.
Think that covers 'em all.
― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)
His John Cale reviews in the All Music Guide have been extremely enlightening, and as a result I've listened to the Fear album at least 100 times in the past week. I can't believe I had gone this far without ever hearing Ship of Fools.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)
Thank you kindly -- recent Cale, alas, is not an area I know well, and I really should. Anyone else care to step in?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)
The real one actually kinda sucks. (And doesn't make sense at all, but since when do music videos have to make sense?)
old-fashioned smooth, silky, and jazzy R&B
A current obsession of mine, and the Neptunes (and Ne-Yo too) are killing that niche right now.
― It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)
― xave (xave), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)
At some point I have to talk about how everything about the song "Peg" is just pure songwriting/arranging perfection.
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)
Please do.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
"recent Cale, alas, is not an area I know well, and I really should. Anyone else care to step in?"
Hobosapiens is / was the the best thing he's done in a long, long time.
― Another Ned Raggett wannabe (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)
Imposter! Well done.
I like the imperative. "Peg! It will come back to you."
Hahah.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)
Some of Justin's new solo stuff on his MySpace page is good, if you like that kind of thing. Personally, I wish my cousin Justin would record something under water.
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)
I want somebody to talk about Stefan Goldmann's remix of "Women in Toilet" by IT which despite its name is to my mind one of the crowning achievements of minimal house. It's eaten me alive since last summer and I just want someone to talk about it. Does it get to you too?
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 28 June 2008 00:08 (seventeen years ago)
It's just so insinuating - it feels more organic, more part of my body and mind than anything Herbert ever conjured up from the microscopic samples of heart valves closing and opening or whatever.
It says "this part is over" but also "you go on".
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 28 June 2008 00:10 (seventeen years ago)
I'm still not able to describe it at all.
u hi
― deeznuts, Saturday, 28 June 2008 00:11 (seventeen years ago)
I might be the only other person who love love loves it Tracer and I've already talked about it! I agree though, there's something about the way the synth-string sounds ripple across the surface of yr skin that seems to be the absolute apotheosis of whatever vibe minimal house might be said to go for as a genre.
Unfortunately I lost my copy when my computer died :-(
― Tim F, Saturday, 28 June 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)
I owe my awareness that it is exists to you! Here it is, if you've got a place to keep it:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uykeph
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 28 June 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)
i would like louis jagger to talk about nothing.
-- cutty (mcutt), Monday, 31 July 2006 16:06 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
Any excuse to give my Meshuggah collection a spin...
― Just got offed, Saturday, 28 June 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)
I want to hear Ned's opinion (rant?) on the Unicorns, and Islands.
― stephen, Monday, 30 June 2008 00:59 (seventeen years ago)
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― stephen, Monday, 30 June 2008 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
I would like to hear J0hn D to talk about Dolly Parton's "Here You Come Again."
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 09:58 (seventeen years ago)
delete the second "to"
It's a shame Momus aint around no mo.
His piece on Justin is about as generous a piece I've ever read.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:12 (seventeen years ago)