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January 29, 2006
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Ms. Monk's Master Class: Advanced Cries, Clucks and Panda Chants
By ANNE MIDGETTE

MEREDITH MONK's music is ethereal, visceral and direct. It relies on building blocks of sound, bits of chanted tune interwoven with cries and clucks and other manifestations of what is known as extended vocal technique. It is about using the voice as expression without mediating elements, like words. And people often describe it as simple.

But anyone who thinks it is easy has never tried to sing it.

This month, 19 singers learned firsthand just how "simple" Ms. Monk's music is. Brought together in a professional training workshop offered by the Weill Music Institute of Carnegie Hall, they stood in a semicircle in a rehearsal studio on the far West Side of Manhattan one cold afternoon and nearly foundered on a complicated vocal piece. The basic elements didn't seem hard: a catchy tune for the women, a constellation of sounds refracted out of it for the men. But the tune was repeated in a four-part canon and varied subtly with each repetition at the direction of one of the singers, so that everyone had to watch for what was coming next.

There wasn't much margin for error. Ms. Monk had a gimlet eye for detail, zeroing in on every bar. "Your entrance was great," she told one singer. "But on the second repetition, your pitch was flat."

One participant, Holly Nadal, said later: "You listen, and it sounds so free and improvised. You don't realize how much structure is there until you start trying to pick it apart. A lot of people who love her music, and who hate her music, think there's a certain randomness there. But it's highly, highly structured."

Ms. Nadal, a big fan of Ms. Monk, has transcribed many of her pieces from recordings. Yet, Ms. Nadal said, even she had been "surprised at, I don't want to say rigid, but how firm and sure she is: this is right and this is wrong."

If it was new territory for the singers, the workshop, which culminated in a concert on Jan. 15, was also a departure for both Carnegie Hall and Ms. Monk. For Carnegie, it was part of an effort to vary the format of the large-scale choral workshop that has been an annual feature since Robert Shaw founded it in 1990. Last September, the Weill Institute offered a smaller workshop led by the Bach specialist Ton Koopman, an oddly matched partner to the Monk event. In addition, the Monk workshop was a step toward incorporating the broader definition of music that has been evident in programming at Zankel Hall into educational initiatives.

For Ms. Monk, it was possibly even more of a departure. She has long resisted allowing anyone else to perform her work. Having begun the exploration of extended vocal technique with her own voice in 1965, she focused on solo work for years before moving on to ensemble pieces like "Quarry" (1976), or "Dolmen Music" (1979), which incorporated male voices for the first time. In 1978, she founded her own ensemble, and while she has cautiously expanded her reach over the years - creating pieces for the New World Symphony or the Houston Grand Opera, which commissioned "Atlas" in 1991 - she has generally guarded the pieces created for it.

Working like a choreographer, in that she develops her work with the people who perform it, she was even reluctant to write her music down. It took the publisher Boosey & Hawkes five years to get permission to publish selected works, and only two are available. (Others are in preparation.)

So it was a major step last November when, as the culmination of some 18 months of events celebrating her 40th anniversary of performing, Ms. Monk allowed a marathon concert at Zankel Hall in which a number of different artists, from Bjork to the contemporary ensemble Alarm Will Sound, offered her work back to her. The workshop furthered the idea of Ms. Monk's passing on her work, although she still didn't seem entirely comfortable with the idea.

"I sometimes think, 'Why bother with paper?' " Ms. Monk, 63, said of the labor of scoring her pieces. " 'Let it die with me.' But members of my ensemble, like Tom Bogdan and Katie Geissinger, said, 'We want to keep performing this music.' It's important to share the joy of doing it." It sounded like a reminder to herself.

Young singers today may be more open to Ms. Monk's work than those of an earlier generation. Ara Guzelimian, the senior director and artistic adviser of Carnegie Hall, who helped pare the original pool of more than 50 applicants to the final 19, said, "This generation of performers is naturally able to do a wide range of things."

The participants came from many countries - including Norway and the former Yugoslavia - and represented an eclectic range of backgrounds. Caleb Burhans, for one, is a composer, violinist and singer who, as a member of Alarm Will Sound, performed at the Zankel Hall tribute in November. Another, Matthew Ryan Hoch, is a classical singer and an assistant professor of music at the University of Wisconsin.

For singers, the workshop was a rare chance not only to work with Ms. Monk but also to get any kind of formal training in contemporary music.

"There's not much conservatory training for this," said Silvie Jensen, a mezzo-soprano who has sung everything from Hildegard von Bingen to a setting of the American Constitution by Ben Yarmolinsky. "And we all sing in ensembles to make a living, but there is no vocal degree in America for ensembles. We just learn to do it on our own."

There were challenges from the start. For Mr. Koopman's Bach workshop, participants had to show up knowing their music. But it is difficult for the uninitiated to learn Ms. Monk's music on their own. The singers were sent CD's and the scores that exist: often transcriptions of single performances, which weren't necessarily the most helpful means of conveying what was actually going on in the music. Ms. Monk and her ensemble members repeatedly urged the singers to create their own maps or cheat sheets, setting out clearly, for example, how many repetitions of a given unit they had to do, or in what order.

"If you look at the score, it will drive you batty," Ms. Monk said of an excerpt from "Atlas." At one point in "Dolmen Music," one of Ms. Monk's greatest and most difficult pieces, the transcriber seemed simply to have given up.

Furthermore, because Ms. Monk is concerned with the way her music looks as well as how it sounds, it is not something you can perform while holding a piece of paper. So the performers had a week to learn an entire two-hour concert of extremely tricky music, far outside their comfort zone, by heart.

SURPRISINGLY, perhaps, given the kinds of sounds Ms. Monk's work demands, her vocal technique is relatively straightforward. The workshop focused less on the mechanics of making the unusual sounds in her pieces than on getting the forms of the music right, drilling rhythms and notes as one would in any kind of music. Morning warm-ups included a range of exercises promoting breathing and diaphragm support, including a couple handed down from Ms. Monk's mother, Audrey, who sang jingles on the radio for Muriel Cigars.

Ms. Monk herself has taken voice lessons for more than 20 years with Jeannette LoVetri, who, Ms. Monk said, has given her "a strong technical basis." Ms. Monk is as interested as any singer in promoting vocal health; she wants to be able to go on singing for as long as possible. She isn't about to shred her voice. But she does want to push the envelope.

"Sometimes in the classical tradition there's a small parameter of what's possible," Ms. Monk said, adding that teachers can "transmit fear to people: 'If you do this, you'll ruin your voice.' Of course, you don't do an extended technique 19 times. You just do it once."

But Ms. Monk's aesthetic does run against conventional wisdom in that she is not interested in who can make the most beautiful sound. She is looking for other qualities. "The best singers aren't always the best performers," she said. For some of the singers at the workshop, even those with extensive backgrounds in contemporary music, this concept took a lot of getting used to.

Furthermore, her focus extends beyond music. Often called a choreographer, and embraced by the dance world as one of its own, she integrates movement into the fabric of her pieces to a higher degree than may be immediately evident (as in the "Panda Chant" from "The Games," which has everyone stepping to 6/8 time while chanting in 4/4, something Ms. Monk equated to rubbing your tummy while patting your head). She is also concerned with how the piece looks onstage, down to the last detail of what everyone is wearing.

"It's the 20th-century version of the gesamtkunstwerk," Mr. Hoch said, referring to Wagner's ideal of a total work of art. "It's about the whole thing."

For this reason, it is impossible to codify Ms. Monk's work into a series of performance directives. She equates her work to a sculptor's, molding a vowel color here, a movement there, illustrating with her own body and voice what she wants.

"We work years on pieces," she said of her ensemble. "There's a commitment of understanding that's different from me just handing people scores. These are living forms. They need time to be nurtured, developed. Each piece is a world, and the techniques of that world are revealed by that world. It's not, 'I'll just throw in a ululation here.' "

For the singers, the intensity of the experience was made all the more nerve-racking by the demands this music makes on each and every performer. "It's more like a string quartet," said Mr. Hoch. "Everyone has his own individual responsibility."

The key to Ms. Monk's ensemble work is maintaining a balance between following the rules and allowing individuality to shine through, which lends the performers onstage an extra dose of vulnerability. Ms. Nadal equated it to "soldiers at the front lines."

"If you're not covering each other's backs," she said, "you're really in trouble." Of course, as Ms. Monk pointed out to them repeatedly beforehand, the audience wouldn't be able to tell if there were mistakes. But she could.

Simple? No. The Sunday concert, the culmination of all this hard work, was imperfect. Yet it was effective and impressive, given the speed at which it was put together. And Ms. Monk, conflicted to the last minute by the contradictory impulses to praise the singers' hard work and cringe at their mistakes, conceded that "it's special to pass this on and feel that the music will go on." She has agreed to another teaching stint this year, at the Bang on a Can summer institute in North Adams, Mass.

She is now rehearsing her continuing piece "Impermanence"; the latest incarnation will open in Tempe, Ariz., next Saturday and tour before coming to the Brooklyn Academy of Music in November. Dealing with terminal illness, the piece, too, raises thoughts of her legacy.

"What have you left behind?" Ms. Monk asked. "What have you given? What are all of us doing here?"

Discounted in this is the illuminating revelation of her process that the workshop afforded - even if it ultimately confirmed that the best exponent of Ms. Monk's music remains Ms. Monk herself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/arts/music/29midg.html?ei=5088&en=5d948e0b98deefb6&ex=1296190800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

OPO: Dolmen Music

Next most favorite: Turtle Dreams.

Thanks for posting this, I'm surprised there isn't a Monk thread on here already and even more surprised that Milton didn't start this one.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nice web page, actually.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't really have much to say about her at the moment, but since she came up on one of the Kate Bush threads, and does occasionally come up in other places, I thought I'd start a thread for here.

Dolmen Music (which I don't even own really) is still my favorite. In fact, it's not just my favorite recording by Monk, but it's a good candidate for a list of essential recordings in general (you know like the Rolling Stone 500 Best Albums). I think I like some other early work. I saw Atlas live in the early 90s (91?), but didn't like it that much. The main thing I remember was some choreography involving a worker in a hectic office flailing about, and it seemed too obvious.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

I like bits from a lot of her records, but not sure I like any one of them as a "classic", straight-through record. Dolemn Music and Our Lady of Late are probably my faves.

However, I will say that the parts of her music that I like, I LOVE. "Travelling", for example, from Dolemn Music, I could play on repeat for hours (and have on the train).

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I like the one that goes

trees! trees! treeeees!

and the one that goes

pan-DA, pan-DA, pan-DA, PAN-DA.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

What is that one track where she does that "Hee hee hee hee hee, I STILL HAVE MY MOUTH" etc. vocal? I used to have that on an ECM sampler, I think.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

That's from Dolmen Music. I forget the name.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

wow... that's really cool, rockist. i um. well, i write music on my own as well as with others and a big theme of my improv stuff has been wordless, gutteral vocals on top of sound landscapes. ima have to check it out!

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I love that track ("The Tale" I think). I also like it when she goes "I still have my money, ohhh!"

x-post

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

(1979 was a great year for accessible experimental music.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

dolmen music and our lady of late are my favorite ones recorded in the 70', but probably just because I heard those two first, she's consistently great. I still haven't heard key, her first. these are the records where she's scoping out a completely new personal vocabulary. (great review of an early concert in tom johnson's the voice of new music.)

later records integrate more traditional forms of early choral music, just shockingly beautiful, and then the soloists break into expanded technique over the top of them. her opera atlas, that's the masterpiece that has everything she can do, the two CD set is her strongest release. if you like things like einstein & young's map of 49's dream & joan labarbara's voice is the original instrument you should definitely proceed straight to atlas.

one tip -- the wonderful ringing chant at the end of atlas was left off the CD release (evidently because without the staging it didn't flow with the earlier material) -- but a version appears on the CD by musica sacra, monk and the abbess, where they perform hildegard von bingen and monk pieces. the pieces they pick flow beautifully together, 800 years erased, definitely get that disc if you can find a copy. someone needs to reissue that.

the early records gave her a reputation as an eccentric, and while I do value her for her extremes, it's also kind of a shame because atlas is the kind of work that would bring the house down all over the world, it's a flat out masterpiece -- and many critics still write about her using words that throws up red lights for many concert goers who've been burned by fringe stuff, but monk is for everybody, anyone with ears, and I hope she can find funding for as many performances of atlas (and mercy) as soon as possible.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

there better be a recording of you reading that post on the album, or this is officially "goofing off"

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

What is that one track where she does that "Hee hee hee hee hee, I STILL HAVE MY MOUTH" etc. vocal?

I love Dolmen Music... but DESTROY THAT TRACK! To me it's all that's bad about "arty music". Three minutes more of Gotham Lullaby instead would have suited me just fine...

Rombald (rombald), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've pretty much loved most of what I've heard by her -- which is not very much, really; maybe five or six albums, from different decades.
Book Of Days, borrowed from a friend, once was one of the very first CD's I could listen at will over weeks and weeks (on a player borrowed from another friend:)
Have only Volcano Songs & Monk and The Abbess on CD myself.

A couple of years ago saw the Book of Days *movie* -- wonderful.

tiit (tiit), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I remember seeing the Book Of Days film on PBS something like a decade ago. I thought it was beautifully done. Would like to find it, watch it again.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

2nd track on Atlas reminds me of Magma and Stella Vander. But then everything does.

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think Mercy may be at least as good as Dolmen Music. (I tend to side with Rombald on THAT track.) Fans may also like Origami by Theo Bleckmann, one of the singers on Mercy.

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

i heard her perform once and it was amazing and i remember none of it

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

that is where i stand with meredith monk

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

also she used to have some anti-piracy RIAA slogans on her site, so uncool!

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

There's one Meredith Monk track off an old Wergo compilation called Music Of Our Century which is her triggering a really high frequency pitch, and her voicing over it starting on a high note than sliding down to a grunt in repetitions, showcasing the constructive interference when her pitch deceleration collides with the frequency... I think it's called "Sigh"

the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

From Tzadik:

Oracles
Meredith Monk: Beginnings [#7721]

An unprecedented collection of recordings charting the earliest years of one of the world’s most innovative and exciting renaissance women—composer, singer, performer, film director, visual artist and auteur Meredith Monk. Hand selected by Meredith from her personal archives, this fascinating compilation ranges from her first solo vocal performances in the mid-'60s, to ground-breaking works from the '70s up through 1980. An essential portrait of a vocal pioneer at her virtuosic and exploratory best.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 October 2009 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

seeing her next week!

surm, Friday, 16 October 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

'dolmen music' kinda blowin my mind right now

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Friday, 25 May 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

seeing "On Behalf of Nature" at BAM on sunday, anyone caught it yet?

adam, Thursday, 4 December 2014 19:20 (eleven years ago)

not in NYC but there was a good article about her in last weeks NYT Magazine

sleeve, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:14 (eleven years ago)

this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/30/arts/music/meredith-monk-celebrates-50-years-of-work.html

i will confess to only being really familiar with "dolmen music" but it owns so hard i feel like i should see something live

adam, Thursday, 4 December 2014 21:16 (eleven years ago)

seven years pass...

The confounding opening minutes of Meredith Monk's "Turtle Dreams", broadcast on local Boston TV, 1983. 🐢 pic.twitter.com/qvNANKSzkX

— NTS Radio (@NTSlive) November 4, 2022

just sayin, Friday, 4 November 2022 10:04 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Anyone seeing “indra’s net” at the Park Avenue Armory? I’m going 10/5.

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 22:20 (one year ago)


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