Cornershop: When I Was Born For The 7th Time

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Just picked this up on cassette yesterday and it's really groovy, good positive-vibed music to get things done to. I used to clean the house to my roommate's copy of it and now I'm tinkering away at intro architecture studio crap. I remember it being a huge deal when it came out, getting "Album of the Year" from Spin (maybe? I think?), but nobody ever talks about it anymore and I'm not sure how many people actually bought it. Definitely one of those odd footnotes where it got all these accolades and only mustered one minor hit single. What's the consensus? Is it a pleasant classic? Or too "dated," with its uniquely mid-90s fusion of Odelay, trip-hop, and Kula Shaker? I'm really enjoying it right now so I guess that's all that matters but I figured I'd submit it to the jury.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

its uniquely mid-90s fusion of Odelay, trip-hop, and Kula Shaker

Well, you know, it MIGHT be me, but I kinda have this assumption that they didn't need Kula Shaker as a model.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's a cruel slur on a pretty decent album!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha, well yes, I was just trying to draw a connection to something else that was momentarily hip and also drawing on related source material (to my ignorant ear anyway).

Also, it seems to be falling off as I get further through the album. This guest rap is godawful!

PS, I love Kula Shaker.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

i bought it last year in a cut-price-CD store ... i remembered it being substantially more classic than it sounded when i got it home. i have a feeling "woman's gotta have it" was actually the better album, but ... i dunno. you're right, though: they have been overlooked by history a little, haven't they? i remember loving their interviews in the NME in the early 1990s: genuinely funny and likeable blokes.

did they re-form or something? ach, i can't be arsed going to find out. sorry.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Really tedious album that I didn't like then either. (Well, actually, I guess I haven't heard it since then.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I liked "Jullandar Shere" (forget which version), from the earlier album, and that's about it (for Cornershop).

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Rockist there -- I had a couple of albums of theirs, really only liked that song, sold 'em back and haven't missed them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

i still love brimful of asha (and the video!), but that's it for me. they had a single out last year, maybe? not that long ago. the guy who wrote all their songs with them lives where i live, apparently. i don't know him though. i'm sure he's nice!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I love "Sleep on the Left Side" more than "Brimful", which is still great. Can't remember the non-singles. Quite fancy hearing it again.

Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sleep on the left side, keep your sword hand free/
Whatever's gonna be is gonna be

A good couplet!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

... and only mustered one minor hit single.

"Brimful of Asha" was a minor hit the first time around, but then Norman Cook remixed it, they re-released the single, and it was a UK #1 if I'm not mistaken (i.e. it was a major hit).

"When I Was Born" is a much stronger album overall than "Woman's Gotta Have It" (="Jullandar Shere" X 2 + a bunch of filler), however, "When I Was Born" kickstarted their determination to be a hip-hop band on record, often with uninspiring results. Live, they could BRING IT.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

i like their grooves/jams more than their songs. it's a pretty good album. the next one is better. admittedly, i don't listen to them much.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, didn't realize that about the #1 Fatboy Slim remix thing. I definitely heard the remix a few times on my alt-rock station here in the States, but it was definitely a sort of DJ novelty play, "You guys will get a kick out of this" etc. To elaborate my ignorance: I always thought When I Was Born... was their debut!

After a couple listens now I definitely prefer the "songs" to the jams. That whole "Turkey gravy...mashed potatoes" thing... what is this, a Bran Van 3000 b-side? "Sleep On The Left Side" is the definite standout - that bass groove! Man! And "Funky Days Are Back Again" is pretty great unless you take it literally and actually start imagining a 1996 populated by people wearing big shoes and getting funkee. To the extent that that happened I kind of want to forget about it...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

dump the interminable ginsberg poetry in middle and this album is 100% classic. "road back home again", with the singer of tarnation, is so fabulous.

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

hate this album. i fell asleep behind the wheel while listening to Funky Gravy and nearly destroyed my car.

karl76 (karl76), Sunday, 17 September 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

actually start imagining a 1996 populated by people wearing big shoes and getting funkee.

Argh, I'm having flashbacks...

Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 17 September 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

I seem to remember hearing their first album once and having a hard time believing that "Brimful of Asha" was even the same band when it started getting on the radio.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 17 September 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

Select tunes from those two albums and their slow, moody electro side project, Clinton, made an excellent mash mix.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 17 September 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

Never seen the Beck comparision before, but it's the good one.

Obviously, the Indian inspiration they probably picked up elsewhere than through listening to Kula Shaker. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 September 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

I asked this on another thread, but does anyone know what the singer is saying in Punjab(?) at the beginning of Brimful of Asha? I wonder every time I hear it. Oh, and I for one like the Ginsberg thing.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 17 September 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

I love this album. A stone classic. "Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow" for god's sake!

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Sunday, 17 September 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

That line just seems too obvious to me (especially when people start singling it out).

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 17 September 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

i used to really like this album but i'm never going to re-visit it.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 17 September 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Let's tell it like it is, folks. Cornershop were crap and the fact that they needed Norman Cook had to mix their track to get any attention whatsoever is further testament to that fact.

Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 17 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow" for god's sake!

That line just seems too obvious to me (especially when people start singling it out).

my favorite is right after: "mine's on the 45"

john, a resident of chicago. (john s), Sunday, 17 September 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

the songs he sings on are great, but Woman's Gotta Have It works better as a whole.

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 17 September 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I should make a cd-r out of the actual songs from When I Was Born and Handcream

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 17 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

there's also a great JLC (as les rythmes digitales) mix of 'sleep on the left side'

nervous (cochere), Sunday, 17 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Some reviewer somewhere compared one of their earlier songs to "Sister Ray", wish I could remember which one.

Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Sunday, 17 September 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

That line just seems too obvious to me (especially when people start singling it out).

What does this even mean? You mean the line itself is obvious, or the quoting of Cornershop's probable best-known lyric (incidentally, a great line) in a thread about Cornershop is obvious?

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Sunday, 17 September 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

I mean the line itself seems too obvious an idea to be singled out as an especially good line that's all. (My snytax got a bit twisted, I admit.) It's not that I demand a lot from lyrics, just that I don't think it's all that special.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

I won't quibble about this line or that, but overall Tjinder Sing's
fantastically quirky and original as a lyricist.

_Handcream For A Generation_ is basically more of the same, although a bit more rockist. Check it out, especially the insanely catchy equivalent to "Brimful", "Lessons Learned From Rocky I To III".

Their debut album is also excellent, but much less accessible. Really noisy chaotic SOMETHING-punk, but with the occasional Indian raga thrown in.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

"We're in Yr Corner," fellas. The rest of the record grows out from there...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

Two Twin 12s

def zep (calstars), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason brimful of asha is one of my most hated songs of all time ...! it's just so weak

millenarian (millenarian), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

dunno if I could choose between "Jullandar" and "Brimful"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

If for no other reason, Cornershop gets a check-plus in my book for being more successful than George Harrison at combining traditional Punjabi sitar with... other stuff ("We're In Yr Corner" especially).

Woman's Gotta Have It: 6A.M. is the cat's pajamas. The rest is a happy accident, but melodically sound & more durable than most mid-90's indie fodder.

WIWBFTST: The hip/trip-hop interludes didn't age well, but the actual "songs" (save for "Candyman" & the cover of "Norwegian Wood") are pretty great. Tjinder and co. delivered the pop; & the pop mixed with the sitars; & the lone country ballad with an adroitness that seemed to exceed their actual musicianship. Perhaps the album was some sort of Primal Scream-esque orgy among the band and a bunch of auteur-producer/DJs. Whatever the case, I believe it to be the most enduring example of mid-90s-antigenre-soundcollage-hiphop-indiekitchensink. I still listen to it on occasion, which cannot be said for: Odelay, Bran Van 3000, or the first Plastilina Mosh album. I saw them in Detroit in 1998, and I recall being pleased, but I was very, very stoned (the same can be said for most concerts I attended 95-00).

The Oasis phenomenon: As Cornershop made their rounds with the BritPress at that time, I remember Oasis utlizing them as their show opener/credibility-enabler du jour. It was the sitars, obviously. One can proceed only so long as a pop band before said pop needs to be thickened with sitars. Or at least located in an area adjacent to sitars. Cornershop were briefly Noel's George.

Handcream: It sucked. Rocky I-III? A Primal Scream B-Side at best. And even if it had better hooks, how many times do you tolerate the awkward phrasing of "chicks with dicks." "Spectral Mornings" was nice, but that point already been driven home much more pleasantly by "6 AM.." & "We're In Yr Corner."

One more detail: Despite being underwhelmed by HFIG, I went to see them when they toured for that album in 2002. The band performed capably, but on multiple occasions - sometimes for extended periods of time - Tjinder stopped singing and playing his guitar mid-song and stared blankly at the ceiling, as if he were (to paraphrase Ween) "chewing bark, but not the leaves." I hope he's OK.

"Ben, you just show them how funky it can get when funky days are back in vogue again."

Sexy MFA (Hexy M.F.), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

Like a few other artists at the time (Badly Drawn Boy frinstance) they suffer from Money Mark Syndrome - a tendency to intersperse great songs with poorly performed filler jams. Mark's Keyboard Repair is on of the great albums of the 90s, but its influence on other acts, esp. in the UK was undesirable.

bham (bham), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

i love that they invited paula frazer to sing with them on 'the road back home', and i particularly love the way tjinder introduces her saying make way for a lady!.

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.
PS, I love Kula Shaker.

EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

I love Cornershop, they're fun and strange. Yeah sometimes tried too hard but so what, it's a big funky world out there and too many groups don't try at all.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 18 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

'Handcream...' is fantastic. There's a glowing review by Simon Reynolds from UNCUT where he goes on about it's 'Screamadelica'-ishness and it's right on the money. A fantasmagorical eclectic pop rock house acid indie album that *genuinely* sounds like a compilation of a load of different bands. Practically no one ever mentions it but i fckng love it.

pisces (piscesx), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)


Cornershop - Handcream For A Generation

pisces (piscesx), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

I actually really like a couple of the "filler" tracks - the one with the fucked up scratching, the Indian tobacco one, and the "When The Light Appears" one especially. It's a good album for driving around with your girlfriend.

a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Monday, 18 September 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

"Brimful of Asha" makes me happy to be alive!!!!!!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: )

god bless!

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

DO NOT WANT

rogermexico., Friday, 8 June 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dude upthread talking about Cornershop being "Noel's George" is babbling nonsense to himself.

everything, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

mohommad raffi!

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

two-in-ones!

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Why does "Candyman" remind me so much of Damon Albarn and particularly the new Gorillaz album?

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 03:38 (sixteen years ago)

heck, the verse guitar riff to "coffee and tv" isn't very dissimilar to "brimful of asha"

hobbes, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

ya but neither are most verse guitar riffs.

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 04:01 (sixteen years ago)

Ben, you just show them how funky it can get when funky days are back in vogue again

in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 07:00 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

"Brimful" still sounds great to me

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

this whole album rules

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 01:27 (fourteen years ago)

A good CD to pick up in almost every UK charity shop

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

haha

Burrito Nimontana (admrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

I like your username

Burrito Nimontana (admrl), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

That's not a snarky remark - loads of people must have bought them hoping for more big beat anthems. I bought mine on Amazon for a few pence last year

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

The original Brimful is so much better than fatboy's remix. Reminds me of Roadrunner. If J Richmann had been a British Asian, that's what he would have written.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 10:42 (fourteen years ago)

Definitely on the original BofA being greater than Fatboy's version.

Nice to see a few people above bigging up "It's good to be on the road back home again", as it is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard. Paula Fraser's voice on that is so gorgeous. I can't believe I still have not got round to acquiring any Tarnation music.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:16 (fourteen years ago)

But I am one of those people who prefer Handcream For A Generation or Woman's Gotta Have It to When I Was Born.

I saw them at Glastonbury once in the John Peel Tent. Once they played "Brimful of Asha" most of the people present left.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

That Fatboy Slim remix jinxed what should have been a great career... their last four albums including this one have all been ace.

Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:21 (fourteen years ago)

what's the "forty five" song?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:23 (fourteen years ago)

And yeah, Handcream is clearly one of those great 'lost' albums.

Death To False Camp (Doran), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 11:30 (fourteen years ago)

"Brimful of Asha" is one of the best rock songs with no one playing bass.

billstevejim, Thursday, 25 August 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

This weekend I heard "Brimful of Asha" played out of doors on a large soundsystem, held up pretty good!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 22:04 (eleven years ago)

"Butter the Soul" must be one of the ones people in the thread see as filler, but for me it's all-time.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 4 September 2014 15:34 (eleven years ago)

every six months or so i tell myself i'm going to listen to their post-7th time records, and then i just end up listening to 7th time for three days

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 September 2014 15:40 (eleven years ago)

I love this record still, and Women's Gotta Have It along with it. Whoever complained upthread about british bands being bad for blending great songs with filler jams is off the mark. I love those lose albums like this one, the first Badly Drawn Boy and the Beta Band EP comp. I wish bands today would drop trying to write those last few songs that'll never be as great as the singles, and just put some formless abstraction on instead.

Frederik B, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:07 (eleven years ago)

five years pass...

I remember the first time I bought on Doc Marten's when I was around 13 I got gifted this cd:

https://www.discogs.com/es/Various-Dr-Martens-Music-Sampler/release/2391081

And Cornershop's Candyman and Moloko's Fun For Me sounded fantastic on my father's sound system, they were my two favorite songs for a while there. Funny I don't remember how any other song in the sampler sounds like, just those two. I think it was the second most popular song on this album, for a while, due to its use on an NBA ad.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 8 May 2020 01:29 (six years ago)


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