How much worse can that new music blog Idolator get?

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Those people from Gawker really shat out a nasty turd on this one.

― don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Cutting it down to size.

― don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

i can't believe it took this long

― p@reene (Pareene), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

at least it's better than ana marie's book

― timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

no Nick Sylvester, no credibility

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's actually quite good and don't know what people's problem with it is - all the anti stuff I'm reading is kinda mindless "lol this sux" interweb nonsense

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, this blog is alright!

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeah... why is this so bad

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

every "cutting down to size" blogpost i've read about this site includes a paragraph like this one from what don linked to:

[Full Disclosure 2: Back in May, when I found out Alex Balk (ex-TMFTML, now co-editing Gawker) was working on this new GM music blog, I asked him (don’t know him, but we’ve e-mailed, before) to toss my name into the hat. Nothing came of it. Even if my name was passed along, I’m sure something – my inability to post more than twice/week, my insufferable chunks of prose, my stubborn gag reflex – removed it from eligibility.]

lame

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

bad because the lead post right now regards Zach Braff soundtrack curation. bad because the second post is a YouTube post of a Moby video. actually, it appears most of the entries are just YouTube embeds.

it's pretty vapid, in that patented Gawker Media confectionary sort of way. which means it could be a pretty great distraction once the writers find their groove.

also, is that associate editor Maura of ILB?

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

yes it is and she is cool so stop talking shit, it's just a baby, it's gonna be awkward for a little while.

also lol at don weiner dissing a blog by quoting another blog

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

and they're almost always "updates" or added later (xxp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

maura is rad, fuck the haters

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

Besides linking to some bitter and rejected blogger's diatribe, care to enlighten us as to why this new music blog is so deserving of our wrath? Or does coming up with a reason take away from the fun of piling on?

― musically (musically), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

because the internet was invented so that angry loners could take anonymous cheapshots!

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

okay i don't care if that heart on a stick blog belongs to lester bangs, it is totally illegible! who's bright idea was it to take out all the space between the lines?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

also lol at don weiner dissing a blog by quoting another blog

glad the intentional irony wasn't lost on ya (and as for the angry loner bit, well, I wish I were...)

care to enlighten us as to why this new music blog is so deserving of our wrath? Or does coming up with a reason take away from the fun of piling on?

lifeless writing, no clear voice, no gossip, embarassing amount of Gawker Media linkage, late to the party with nothing to show for it, a zillion posts in just a few days worth of existence, weak layout, etc. There is no compelling reason to read this blog.

I'm sure Maura's a nice person. I like Raftery's work in GQ or Esquire or wherever it was where I used to see his byline. But this blog, which took years to hatch, isn't any good.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

There is no compelling reason to read this blog.

I must disagree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

LOL at "I meant to do that"
http://www.925jackfm.com/images/Announcer%20Pic/Pee%20Wee%20Herman.jpg

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

also i was talking about the dude you linked to OH YEAH INTENTIONALLY when i said 'angry loner', i know nothing about your situation

and also you have spent a lot of energy and time on something that is not compelling enough to read

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

SORRY BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE I JUST CANNOT TOLERATE NON-COMPELLING BLOGS

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

"so that angry loners could take anonymous cheapshots"

um, isn't this gawkerempire SOP - i mean the anonymous cheapshots, maybe not the angry loner part.

i think idolator may grow into something worth the occasional browse, but the music biz does not seem nearly as well suited to the gossip/snark/rumor methods of gawker/defamer/wonkette (of course there's lots in the music world worthy of this, but not in the dozens-of-daily-items ratio that feeds the other sites)

good luck anyway

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

i think this could pull it off but sorta in that by default way where it doesn't do things so much better as just more (cf other gawker blogs) and maybe develop a good snark voice pretty quick given the editors. honey cone was a great choice for an initial mp3 linkage type thing too. too tired to give it a careful read and come to an eval thus far, but yeah, its still young so who knows.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me or is that article "taking down" Idolator full of some of the most boring, convulated bullshit writing around? Jesus christ. I think Idolator kind of sucks so far, but I'll take it over that crap any day.

― like murderinging (modestmickey), Monday, 18 September 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

The Moby video is a good find! Did you watch it?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

if two people post on this thread that can carry maura's jock i'll be shocked

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

I count three so far, you included (and me not), and they're on the side of the angels and/or Rocco Baldelli.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sorta purposefully not having an opinion on this whole subject, but cards have been marked on this thread

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

countdown til this thread just causes me to go batshit insane and start mass deleting huge chunks of ilm...

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

you're a better fucking writer than me daddino! gimme a break! blogs are (with very very very very few exceptions, like albino buffalo or something) complete fucking garbage and the only reason i can imagine anyone doing one (including the exceptions) with an ounce of selfrespect is to get fucking paid so that puts maura one up on any motherfucker that's gonna post on this thread bar possibly perpetua and at least her money is aboveboard and 'ethical'.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

blount shut up

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

touchy touchy!

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

it would be bad form to delete this wouldnt it?

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

spill yr dirt and then delete 15 minutes later would be the correct protocol i think

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that deadspin thing part of the gawker family? why didn't maura take over that?

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

haha i'm just having a very ugly "what did you say about my sister??" reaction to this thread.

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

bar possibly perpetua?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

ain't nobody in this game getting paid like perpetua.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

do you think he's making more than someone who writes for, say, the times? (not j/k.)

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

ny times? no.

new times? yes.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

HOLY FUCKING SHIT - there's some ancient larry miller standup special on hbo right now and jerry seinfeld and david spade have tiny anonymous bit parts in the intro skit. ain't a motherfucker on this thread getting paid like larry miller!

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know anything about perpetua's salary (or any music journalists, really, i bet it's pretty niggardly), but if we want to talk about self-respect, looking through his blog for the first time it reads exactly like the really labyrinthine, preening press releases we get by the bin at the radio station i work at. except sometimes they are telling you not to play the song. i always end up feeling like, "great, now that i understand this i don't actually have to listen to it!"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

how many of those press releases are still addressed to me? Jim Hanley? Dave Seubert?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

i never looked at the name

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

but i am sure we still read your mail

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 18 September 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

not really sure how Idolator is going to pull it off, although I'd like to see it happen; not just for the sake of the indefatigable Maura Fan Club but because I think there's a real opportunity for something that combines Coolfer, the Velvet Rope, and the snarkier side of SPIN.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

things i "love" about this thread:

- people assessing the worthiness of a blog within days of its launch. clearly the phrase "sit back and watch what happens" no longer applies to... fuck, anything

- the insane rants of bloggers who are salty because someone else got the job they applied for. of course, you have to wonder with such pissypants knee jerk reactions, would these douchehammers have been any good at the job?

anyway, im gonna go back to my corne and continue to cheer maura on. GO MAURA!

― mts (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

maybe if this blog hadn't been in development for the better part of two years, maybe if the blog was merely good instead of totally average, maybe if Idolator wasn't part of a well-financed publishing company with plenty of resources, maybe if the blog wasn't loaded with talent on the editor side, maybe if the blog hadn't kicked off with a really lame "manifesto"...what a shame it is that my expectations were so utterly high, to actually think that a blog born with a silver spoon in its mouth would actually get most things right instead of such mediocrity. I hope Idolator gets better, and it probably will. But unless it gets a lot better, it's going to be the red-headed stepchild of the Gawker Empire.

― don weiner (don weiner), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

no, don, the red-headed stepchild would be the utterly awful deadspin. idolator's fine, and definitely very good in comparison with will leitch's blubberings.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Reason Maura didn't take over Deadspin = dearth of "OMG PAYTON IS GHEY" jokes.

[hstencil mindmeld]

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

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punk or stunk

― ksh, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:36 (sixteen years ago)

phat loops or ass soup

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

punk or spunk

― samosa gibreel, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:42 (sixteen years ago)

drone or moan

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 March 2010 17:48 (sixteen years ago)

ambient or excrement

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

noise or noise

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 March 2010 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

rock, rot or rule

― one of the jones boys (sic), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

darkwave or fartwave

― 丫 power (dyao), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 04:42 (sixteen years ago)

New Wave or Ew Wave

― Moka, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:43 (sixteen years ago)

haha

― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 06:17 (sixteen years ago)

new romantic or too pedantic

― musically, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 06:40 (sixteen years ago)

acid rock or flaccid cock

― musically, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 06:46 (sixteen years ago)

late 16th century baroque or blate sickenin sedentary & broke

― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 07:52 (sixteen years ago)

post-punk or roach dung

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 March 2010 07:55 (sixteen years ago)

minimal techno or reaching for pepto

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 March 2010 07:57 (sixteen years ago)

late 70s freak folk revival or shit

― 丫 power (dyao), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 07:59 (sixteen years ago)

custos or crusty toes

― The Reverend, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 08:11 (sixteen years ago)

http://idolator.com/5462971/photos-before-she-loved-controversial-music-videos-erykah-badu-loved-hats#discus_thread

― NJ Da Bruceman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

hahahaha

― hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

Surely we can count the days now, right?

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

pop or poop
Ricky Martin recently came out of the closet on his website. Should he have been more open about his sexuality earlier in his career?
* Pop: No. Everyone is entitled to handle their own sexuality their own way. Ricky didn't owe anyone any more details than he chose to share when he was on top of the charts.
* Poop: Yes. Ricky could've taken a stand and provided more leadership for gay fans when he was a bigger star, but he obviously was more concerned with his career.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

smh360d

― da croupier, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

lmfao

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

great job, BUZZMEDIA

― ksh, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

wait the poop or pop thing is real?

― can't think of anything (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha, oh M@tt I envy you

― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

M@tt: http://idolator.com, go to the bottom of the right-hand column

― ksh, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

lol i didn't realize Buzznet changed its name to something equally lame last year

― j@ggerlovesmanydudes (some dude), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

well i'll be...

― can't think of anything (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

Just noticed they got an Alison Goldfrapp interview. It would've probably been a lot better conducted by Maura, but that's beside the point. In the glory days, it would've had about 200 comments. Now it has FOUR.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

In the end what happened to the 'Worst songs' feature?

― Moka, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:46 (sixteen years ago)

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/11/f2kindex.php

― my heart will goon (some dude), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

Yeahy! Was wondering whatever happened to that feature. Damn, those look truly awful. Thanks!

― Moka, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

How much worse can that new music blog [Hype Machine|Gorilla vs Bear|Popmatters|etc] get?

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/fastest-growing-digital-entertainment-publisher,1322876.shtml
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/06/update-story-behind-buzzmedia-the-music-blogs.html

BuzzMedia has added today 6 major music blogs. PureVolume, PopMatters, Gorilla vs. Bear, The Hype Machine, Concrete Loop and RCRD LBL join Stereogum, Buzznet, Idolator and Absolute Punk in the web entertainment publisher's music portfolio.

each blog has structured its own unique deal with Buzz and most are centered around advertising. While Buzz does own and control most of its original properties, the new "additions" leave most of the bloggers independent. A spokesperson for BuzzMedia described the new relationships with HypeM, RCRDLBL and Pop Matters as "partnerships" and claimed that "all sites will retain their own editorial control."
For most of the blogs, "partnership" appears to mean selling and delivering adds. But for the Gorilla vs. Bear blog, The Buzz relationship goes farther. "We generally don't get into details of how deals are structured," said the Buzz spokesperson, "but Gorilla vs. Bear is an acquisition in the form of an investment with right to buy the remainder".

― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

there should be a 'via Carles' in there too

― Veðrafjǫrðr heimamaður (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

secretly hoping that Buzznet buys more shitty indie rock blogs and slowly ruins them like they did Idolator

― exxon valdeej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

"in the web entertainment publisher's music portfolio."

GOTTA CATCH EM ALL!!!

― exxon valdeej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:02 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i mean...i'd be pretty bitter if they've actually learned their lesson from the Idolator fiasco in time to preserve the magic of Gorilla Vs. Bear and help them thrive

― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

no idea how much Concrete Loop or Absolute Punk are 'worth' per se but i'm betting they knew what they were doing with their sites as is and probably didn't need to enter into such a risky partnership

― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

Absolute Punk has been owned by Buzznet for years now

― exxon valdeej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

oh duh misread the thing

― Truollmas (some dude), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

i hope for their next act, idolator breaks the wrinklepaws scenestars payola scandal

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit)

― -hot-dean ge-fever- (buzza), Friday, 1 October 2010 07:27 (fifteen years ago)

four years pass...

why did i reread this thread? now i need a xanax

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:46 (eleven years ago)

anyway hi guys, how's life

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)

hey maura.

― how's life, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:55 (eleven years ago)

I miss o.g. Idolator so much.

― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:57 (eleven years ago)

You got that right.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:59 (eleven years ago)

yeah, it was beautiful at times. it simultaneously made and ruined my life. i am still talking about it in therapy! that's something!

― maura, Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:01 (eleven years ago)

Don't sweat it, maura! This regard affirmed my faith in both evolution and entropy!

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:36 (eleven years ago)

nine months pass...

i love you ilx. even you, crankypants don weiner.

― maura, Monday, 14 September 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)

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