Supertramp POX

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The 70s "Pomp Pop" extravaganca continues, starting with an extremely "Crime Of The Century"-dominated list by me:

1. Hide In Your Shell
2. Rudy
3. School
4. Fool's Overture
5. A Soapbox Opera
6. If Everyone Was Listening
7. Dreamer
8. Lady
9. Even In The Quietest Moments
10.Crime Of The Century

That means nothing from "Breakfast In America", which is fine but lacks the prog/pomp magic of their earlier work.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

you put "School" on there, which is all i really cared about.

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Breakfast hits are a lot better than "Dreamer" but I don't know the band well enough outside those two albums to do a POX (+ Breakfast is the only one I currently own). My POV would be (in order):

School
Hide In Your Shell
The Logical Song
Breakfast In America
Give a Little Bit

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I know way too much about this band. In rough order of preference:

1. Take The Long Way Home
2. Bloody Well Right
3. Lady
4. School
5. From Now On
6. Rudy
7. Hide In Your Shell
8. Give A Little Bit
9. Ain't Nobody But Me
10. It's Raining Again (would be higher if not for that wretched "no need to get uptighter" line)

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think hearing _Crime of The Century_ at age 12 cemented my later appreciation of depressing lyrics, btw. Ian Curtis would be hard-pressed to beat "Hide In Your Shell" or "Bloody Well Right" for sheer bleakness.

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I had "Easy Does It" stuck in my head today and I think I'm just going to spend the week listening to nothing but Supertramp. I'm tempted just to put all of Crisis, What Crisis? here. Only ten is too hard!, but:

+ Babaji
+ Fool's Overture
+ School
+ Crime of the Century
+ Hide in Your Shell
+ If Everyone Was Listening
+ Sister Moonshine
+ A Soapbox Opera
+ Poor Boy
+ The Logical Song

salsa shark, Monday, 18 August 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

twelve years pass...

This thread is appropriate, since they have about 10 good songs.
Although I appreciate the contrasting dynamic of earnest/spiritual tenor and cynical/earthy baritone on their albums, I think Roger Hodgson wrote and sang all their best songs. Best Rick Davies song would be "Oh Darling".

"Words Unspoken" from Supertramp
"Hide in Your Shell" and "If Everyone Was Listening" from Crime of the Century
"A Soapbox Opera", "The Meaning" and "Two of Us" from Crisis? What Crisis?
The title track and "Fool's Overture" from Even in the Quietest Moments...
"The Logical Song" and "Take the Long Way Home" from Breakfast in America

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:18 (five years ago)

They're an intriguing band, at least from my vantage, since no matter how many "good" songs they may have, there sure are more than a handful that get regular play on the radio, and yet the band seems to have no real traction. Or, I dunno, maybe as much as the Moody Blues or Procol Harum or whatever. Like those bands, I'm not even sure where this band even fits in. Did they have peers? Were they part of a particular scene? Does their fan base cross over with, say, Genesis? No idea. They're just out there floating around in the ether.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:00 (five years ago)

They are still critical punching-bags, seen as representing the nadir of the 70s; neither the prog nor the FM rock revivals seem to have helped them, maybe because they sat between the two camps.
For instance, John Corbett's book on 70s music, Pick Up the Pieces, has chapters on Heart, Boston and ELO (among hipper acts) but he still uses Supertramp as a punchline on a couple of occasions, like they are the least defensible remnant of the age.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:18 (five years ago)

the band seems to have no real traction. Or, I dunno, maybe as much as the Moody Blues or Procol Harum or whatever.

They were apparently more popular in Canada than anywhere else so maybe my perspective is skewed but this seems totally wrong to me.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:20 (five years ago)

xpost Huh, I wonder why? I mean, a band like Styx seems a much better nadir. Maybe it's that Supertramp doesn't even get *ironically* cited, but as band like Styx does?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:20 (five years ago)

Tame Impala guy is a big fan, I thought? I suspected they were the secret influence on a lot of millennial indie rock.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:22 (five years ago)

https://www.spin.com/2012/08/tame-impalas-surprising-lonerism-influence-supertramp/

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:24 (five years ago)

Their profile might have been raised by the ad that featured "Give a Little Bit" a few years ago, I don't like that song.

Nadirs of the 70s: Styx vs Supertramp?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:24 (five years ago)

the album after breakfast in America is totally underrated

crime of century and quiet moments are both solid

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 18:53 (five years ago)

they’re a bunch of ringers with no charisma but they made good records

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 18:54 (five years ago)

"Know Who You Are"on that 1982 album is a very nice acoustic ballad completely at odds with the increasing slickness of their sound.
Was John Helliwell the most prominent clarinetist in rock? Who would be his competitors, among people that were actually members of name bands? Ian McDonald of King Crimson?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:44 (five years ago)

Andre 3000? The Mascara Snake?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:49 (five years ago)

Walter Parazaider from Chicago dabbles in clarinet when the mood takes him

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:52 (five years ago)

Which it too often does

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:53 (five years ago)

did Andy McKay play one on “ladytrpn”?

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:53 (five years ago)

Mackay doubled on oboe, but no clarinet as far as I know.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:00 (five years ago)

The poppier end of art/prog-rock, not as good as first-greatest-hits Electric Light Orchestra, but still pretty good I'd say. I saw them live in their late-'70s heyday! ("They were apparently more popular in Canada than anywhere else"--I think that's true, yeah.)

clemenza, Friday, 21 May 2021 20:54 (five years ago)

...and yet they snubbed us, when Breakfast in Canada would have made a perfectly good song/album title!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:14 (five years ago)

They already had us; they were hunting bigger game.

clemenza, Friday, 21 May 2021 21:38 (five years ago)

four years pass...

I was surprised to see a Guardian article the other week listing Supertramp's best songs, thinking there'd been a Supertramp revival I wasn't aware of... but it was because Rick Davies died.

+ Babaji
+ Fool's Overture
+ School
+ Crime of the Century
+ Hide in Your Shell
+ If Everyone Was Listening
+ Sister Moonshine
+ A Soapbox Opera
+ Poor Boy
+ The Logical Song

― salsa shark, Monday, 18 August 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

I mostly stand by this, but swap Poor Boy for Try Again, and depending on mood, Sister Moonshine for Another Man's Woman or Asylum or Lady

salsa shark, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 21:31 (eight months ago)


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