Justice - † Pretentious symbol = french dance?

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Buzz buzz lots of buzz

Their new album † was leaked today.
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Thoughts?

― donkey, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

First thought is that it's not really cool to post that link here.

― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think I've seen that "pretentious symbol" somewhere before.

― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

― jed_, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

spencer chillax

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I was getting all butt hurt.

― Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

orson was a pig, not a donkey

― abanana, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

donkey.me.uk?

neigh

― donkey, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

spencer OTM. delete thred i say

― braveclub, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

OK wait wait wait wait

don't delete the thread, that's a stupid idea.

now ... let's all imagine this is what we got when we opened up the "daft punk - human after all" thread ... and discus

― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 12 May 2007 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

or shotput?

― lfam, Saturday, 12 May 2007 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

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― blunt, Saturday, 12 May 2007 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/493884326_c18b012179_o.gif

― blunt, Saturday, 12 May 2007 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, I downloaded it. My bad.

― Belisarius, Saturday, 12 May 2007 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

Last.fm is so funny right now

― Spinspin Sugah, Saturday, 12 May 2007 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

fake leak. incomplete.

― Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

I refuse to download this until I can hear this on a proper CD-quality recording with decent bass and treble.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 13 May 2007 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

i refuse to download this bc i do not want to hear justice

― Fetchboy, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

I refuse to download this until I can hear this on a proper CD-quality recording with decent bass and treble.

Justice with decent bass? You might be waiting a while, dude.

― BleepBot, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

fetchboy OTM

― jed_, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

fetchboy 4 real

― lfam, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh damn beat to it!

― lfam, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

ahaha fourthed!

― Jena, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

jena, last FM says you do want to hear justice!

― jed_, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

if i wanted a robot to tell me what to listen to i would ask geir!

― lfam, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

or the lex

― lfam, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

robbles

― Trayce, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

if a donkey told me what to listen to i'd def take heed tho.

― jed_, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Of course of course.

― Trayce, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://vaiden.net/ed_wilbur.jpg

ed: "wouldn't you prefer a copy of 'discopolis' to this?"
wilbur: "..."

― haitch, Sunday, 13 May 2007 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is dangerous

― cutty, Sunday, 13 May 2007 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fools: http://fr.music.yahoo.com/ar-295933-videos--Justice

― baaderonixx, Sunday, 13 May 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

fetchboy and all those seconding him - speaking as someone who has heard the whole thing, your instinct is spot on

(nb 'waters of nazareth' is still awesome and there is actually one other good song! near the end. called 'stress' or something like that. but the rest of it is exactly what you suspect it is)

― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

Justice with decent bass? You might be waiting a while, dude.

Erm, I was joking. My thoughts on Justice are well-documented.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 13 May 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is cantankerous

― 696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

this thread walk around the place and a screw up the face

― 696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

who put the ball in the germans net?
who put the ball in the germans net?
who put the ball in the germans net?
STEVE SHASTA!

― 696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

gumpy old men

― blueski, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

jed, i bit and clicked on the link, but couldn't get past 'stress'. i remember actually enjoying 'genesis', but then it got real samey real quick. and yes blueski, this shit makes me feel old because i can totally see teh kids rocking out to it.

― Jena, Sunday, 13 May 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

i like the way it comes up as the first album, and correctly displayed at that, on my iPod :-)

first listen, about half (in the middle) is meh to interesting, but the other half is exciting squealy stuff. i think (apart from the 'meh') that this might be intentional. a lot of the songs (not the last one!) have distinct codas - more distinct than any verse/chorus/verse structure. it's all very prog. but not like progressive house.

― Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

and yes blueski, this shit makes me feel old because i can totally see teh kids rocking out to it.

as long as i love lil' mama and mims, i will not feel old or at all removed from the kidz

― lex pretend, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

uffie track is a low point, which is annoying.

― Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

pretty boring/painful past the stuff already released as singles, huh

― nervous, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

i know this joke is getting old, but i'm very serious when i say this album is great to jog to

― cutty, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

'D.A.N.C.E.' piano bits are similar to the piano bits early on in '45:33'

― blueski, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

cutty otm

― strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm assuming

― strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

what i've heard so far is great! i'm not that old yet right

― daria-g, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

i love justice! in fact, i'm mad that they've abandoned the heavy metal shit for crappy filter disco. DEATH TO DISCO.

― strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=27647

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

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I hate "Tik Tok" even more than you do, I'm sure. Mostly because it's such a blatant rip off and because it's sung-spoken by fucking Ke$ha. And if I'm not mistaken, it's Ke$ha's lyrics that sound like Uffie's. The Uffie hate is because people actually think she's a rapper and hold her to the same standard as Ghostface, which I think is pretty ridiculous. As Deej said upthread, she makes party girl rap...not that hard to understand, especially when someone as lyrically challenged as Missy Elliot exist(ed) and people LOVED her.

I like Justice a lot and Civilization sounds really good, but this is not music I dance to much at all. It's "activity" music. Music to work out to, bike ride to, drive to, create montages with, etc.

― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno..I hate her because her voice is fucking obnoxious and she says things like "take it to the next lev"

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:18 (fifteen years ago)

you just compared uffie to missy elliot

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

lotta dumb shit being said itt

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

"Stress" is the only Justice track I ever want to hear, ever

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

I just read the RA feature on Justice linked up thread and they seem to consider themselves more pop dance music. It'd be hard to dance to the instrumental tracks (Stress, Let There be Light, Nazareth) but all the songs with vocals (DVNO, DANCE, We Are Your Friends) are definitely danceable.

― The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

Got Jesus on my neck-a-luss.

― matt2, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

lotta dumb shit being said itt

do explain

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

use of "gang-raping" as non-gross metaphor
bewilderment that ilm dislikes justice and uffie even though some current pop acts that dont get very much ilm love have a similar sound
belief that "tik tok" is "the worst"
belief that ilx hates uffie b/c she sounds like kesha
hatred of kesha
belief that ilx hates uffie b/c she is not as good a rapper as ghostface
belief that missy elliott is lyrically challenged <--- possibly dumbest shit said itt

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

I don't understand why anyone would be surprised that ILM dislikes Justice either but most of that is just "opinion that doesn't line up with mine = dumb shit"

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

huh

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

isnt that weird

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

for the record, the main reason why I hate Uffie is because she is not as good a rapper as U-God

― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

ahhh my favorite style of posting

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

i love tik tok

i thought this revive was going to be bc the new single had leaked or something

― flopson, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 07:10 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ this thread title "pretentious symbol = french dance?" is that a question what is this

― flopson, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 07:17 (fifteen years ago)

well tbf the thread WAS started by noted ilx poster "donkey"

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 April 2011 07:18 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JuT5AEHzsU

I like.

― The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

(max)(otm)

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

Although the new track isn't their strongest.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

This track goes a little too far down the 80s rock path for me to really love it.

― Moodles, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

surprised at just how badly this is dating, it's probably what "Human After All" should have been but yeah I can't wring any enjoyment out of any of this except for three parts 1) the first few minutes (up until that pulsing drumbeat of "Let There Be Light" that just devolves into nothingness), 2) "DVNO" which is still killer, and 3) the random obscure Devo sample which I'm sure almost nobody recognized

― frogbs, Friday, 21 October 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

What's the one that samples Goblin wholesale?

― dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

this is one of the worst thread titles ever

& yeah, "dance" is timeless but it's just weird to listen to the whole album now

― J0rdan S., Friday, 21 October 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

also this is one of the worst thread titles ever

― J0rdan S., Friday, 21 October 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

it is pretty impressive that "DANCE" is only like the 3rd or 4th most obnoxious tune on the album

― frogbs, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

Anybody have an a capella of that song? 'Cause fuck those vocals. Just because it's off key doesn't make it cute.

― Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

you just compared uffie to missy elliot

― J0rdan S., martes 12 de abril de 2011 16:24 (6 months ago) Bookmark

― fauxmarc, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

also, i'm totally not surprised at how badly this is dating

― fauxmarc, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

...i mean it's not like wine it's not going to get better or unsuck

― fauxmarc, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

I guess the point is if you really like stuff that's unsubtle and really obnoxious, you have dubstep now

― frogbs, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, that. So anyways, Justice just released a really good rock album that's better than † and getting some positive press. Loving "New Lands".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKuWUT7UCKM

― Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

yeah - fans of the last album seem to be getting in a jiff about it, but it's kind of neat in that it kinda sounds like Yes or Camel or Styx or something stupid like that. dunno how I feel about it yet.

― frogbs, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

Fans have yet to repent their brostep sins. You have to approach this album like you never heard the last one.

― Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

Very cool. I like it. My wife and I have matching JB tattoos. I have the sheet music for the main riff of Bridge To Better Days on my rib cage and my wife has it a little smaller on her side also.

― brimstead, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:52 (eleven years ago)

lol wrong thread.

― brimstead, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:52 (eleven years ago)

ahaha perfect

― bag lady bag (mattresslessness), Sunday, 7 June 2015 23:21 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

new track here:
http://www.justice.church/

it has a nice bass groove, but they need to dig themselves out of this mid-tempo malaise if they ever want to excite people again.

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:38 (nine years ago)

Yeah, the cross record had an anxiety and danger to it that made it compelling. Haven't heard them do anything else with that feeling.

― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)

Was just listening to cross the other day in fact, holds up pretty well.

― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)

I agree. OTOH, I don't think I ever need to hear the 2nd album again.

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:21 (nine years ago)

I was listening to the 2nd Anniversay Get Physical mix again the other day, specifically "Our World (Our Music)" and thinking "this song is just perfect".

where has this been all my life

― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 23:26 (nine years ago)

i disagree. i like the new song (its a bit RAM/HAA daft punk). dont necess need to hear them go into full distortion mode.

― StillAdvance, Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:36 (nine years ago)

four months pass...

really love the new album.
hits a lot of my aural sweet spots.
yes, the intense overdriven synths are no longer there, but thats what the debut album was all about.
the new one has some gorgeous production layers for headphones, and flows beautifully as a complete album.
the excess of strings and love of AOR actually reminds me of the midnight juggernauts in parts.
no doubt it will flop and sink without trace (no EOY lists due to the release date), but hey ..

― mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:15 (nine years ago)

it's an improvement over the last one at least. They no longer seem to be convinced that they should be a rock band.

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:17 (nine years ago)

i never heard the second album, but out of a pokemon type need, i will now have to track it down.

― mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:21 (nine years ago)

it's not great

― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:50 (nine years ago)

so i see from your previous posts.
but i have no problem with electronic bands trying 70s prog.
see juan trip, air ...

― mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:29 (nine years ago)

on my second listen now and it's quite....good?? I dunno I never actually liked Cross much and didn't give AVD much of a chance. this is sounding pretty sweet though.

― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (nine years ago)

mark's description definitely intrigues me... totally interested in hearing juan trip now as well

― a but (brimstead), Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:55 (nine years ago)

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