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Recently I've embarked on a quest to Expand My Taste. I've been wanting to explore other genres besides my general home base of classic rock/hard rock/metal, but it's hard to figure out where to even start. so I thought, hey, people on ILM might know something about that! I'm most interested in trying electronic/dance, country, jazz, the blues, and whatever other facets of rock/pop I may not have explored. I'm open to any suggestions, really (although I have very little interest in hip hop or rap beyond chill/trip hop stuff). Even if it's the most obvious classic, suggest it anyway, because I might not know about it. I do have some stuff in the aforementioned genres, but I don't want to narrow it down too much. I realize this is a really broad thread, but any help you can give is appreciated. Thanks in advance!

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Public Enemy

― Soukesian, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sonny Sharrock

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I do have It Takes a Nation of Millions..., which pretty much constitutes my wrath collection. I guess I should've specified -- can you recommend specific albums rather than just artists? I mean, I know Miles Davis is a good place to start with jazz, but I'm not sure what to pick up.

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

(rap, not wrath)

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Glenn Branca - The Ascension

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Do you spik da Punk? Industrial?

― Soukesian, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Country:

A good Johnny Cash collection or two, like The Complete Sun Singles and/or something that gathers up some Columbia tracks, maybe 16 Biggest Hits. Great albums that I play a lot: San Quentin, Silver, Unchained.

Willie Nelson. Tons of great stuff here, again. Stardust and Yesterday's Wine won't do you wrong.

Merle Haggard. The Lonesome Fugitive two-disc set on Razor & Tie ('60s and '70s Capitol stuff). A good collection of MCA singles is also a fine thing. Songs I love from that era: "Leonard," "I Think I'll Just Stay Here and Drink," "It's Been a Great Afternoon." Opinions vary on his Epic era, but I tend to like it.

A few favorite jazz albums:

Miles Davis, In a Silent Way. This intersects with your interest in electronic stuff.

Sonny Sharrock, Ask the Ages[/i}. Fierce guitarisms. xpost to Ned

Thelonious Monk, The Best of Thelonious Monk: The Blue Note Years. Great place to start, especially in learning the repertoire he revisited throughout his career.

Charles Mingus, Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus. Some of his classics are here. Great band, as always.

Either album by Marc Ribot y los Cubanos Postizos. Cuban music meets arty New York guitarist to brilliant effect. Beautiful and sometimes funny.

Duke Ellington. If you dig big bands, you can't go wrong with . . . And His Mother Called Him Bill[/i].

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yikes to formatting.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, what label is that Glen Branca release on?

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

BEARDO DISCO

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the Wrath=Rap thing!

I think the Miles records you might click with right away would be Jack Johnson and Aghartha. The former is a kind of sludge-blues, the latter is endless relentless psych-funk. Both are slathered in electric guitar.

Ned OTM re: Sharrock.

Also, Jeff, do you know the first several Boredoms albums? Particularly Soul Discharge and Pop Tatari? In that part of their arc they took a bunch of the Lego bits from 70s hard rock, shook 'em up in a baggie, and assembled them into ass-shaking/head-spinning collages.

Another jazz thing-- 70s small ensemble-McCoy Tyner, like Trident, Enlightenment, Atlantis. Awesome power-jazz with immense, eternal-sounding themes.

― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, what label is that Glen Branca release on?

99, reissued on CD in the 90s by the italian NewTone label.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

A good entryway into country (in addition to the excellent suggestions above) is anything by Gram Parsons, particularly Grevious Angel (solo) or The Gilded Palace of Sin (Flying Burrito Brothers).

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Comus - First Utterance
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire

― xox, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Comus. It's metal malevolence but with folk instruments. Similarly, Mice And Rats In The Attic by Jan Dukes De Grey.

― Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Punk/proto-punk, I have a lot of the really obvious essentials (Never Mind the Bollocks, London Calling, Damaged, New York Dolls, Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing, a couple Stooges records, Ramones and Bad Religion compilations), although a lot of the less obvious bands I'm not sure where to start with (Vibrators, the Damned, the Cramps, Etc.).

Industrial, I'm very familiar with the post-Nine Inch Nails "Industrial Metal" stuff (Ministry, Rammstein, KMFDM), not as much with the 80s progenitors.

I like Johnny Cash a lot. I only have The American IV and the Legend of Johnny Cash, but they're both great.

And no, I actually hadn't heard of the Boredoms until I came to ILM.

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Charlie Parker. Blind Wille McTell. Patsy Cline.

― Frogman Henry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

The Damned were friends with some metal dudes, hell Lemmy was even a member for a week or 3. Get Machine Gun Ettiquette by the Damned, then their first album, then The Black Album and Strawberries.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

NOT METAL ALBUMS FOR METAL DUDES, recommendations:

Tony Williams Lifetime - Emergency (frenetic fusion jazz trio)
Atari Teenage Riot - Start The Riot (screaming industrial fun)

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

Underworld - Second Toughest In The Infants

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Talk Talk - Laughing Stock

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm quite familiar with Atari Teenage Riot and Underworld. I have 60 Second Wipeout, and three Underworld albums including that one.

I suppose I should also clarify that I am not just looking for really frenetic angry malevolent stuff. I mean, part of the impetus for my taste expansion is that I was looking through my collection the other day for something a little more relaxing, and realized that my options were very slim. So feel free to recommend more laid-back stuff as well.

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dalek - From Filthy Tongue Of Gods & Griots

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Well now you tell me you want relaxing! sheesh. okay, there is lots of that too.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

but buy all that stuff anyway.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

although most music relaxes me.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Waits - Bone Machine

― the next grozart, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

I want everything! Just saying. Anyway, Underworld relaxes me. I usually listen to them on the way home from metal shows.

― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Atari Teenage Riot album seconded (oops, xpost with Jeff), another spectacularly aggressive 90's act was Harry Pussy, look for the What Was Music CD (the one on Siltbreeze with all their early stuff).

My metalhead roomie LOVES country, all the above plus Hank Williams who hasn't been mentioned yet.

For original industrial, check out Throbbing Gristle's Heathen Hearth album and SPK's Leichenschrie. Heavy stuff but with as much rhythm and texture as noise.

pre-punk: Pere Ubu's 1st singles and LP? Electric Eels?

more recent - New Bomb Turks? 1st album is killer. Lazy Cowgirls? Someone else knows more than me but they have a buncha good albums. Dwarves? Sub Pop era!

there are scattered moments in the large discogs of Nurse With Wound and the Sun City Girls that I think would appeal to you as well, but I recommend just reading the threads already here on those bands to get an idea of what you might want to check out - my two would be NWW's "An Awkward Pause" CD and the SCG's "Horse Cock Phepner" (which is out of print along with a ton of other good shit of theirs, sorry).

Classical? Arvo Part is my fave living composer. Maybe the movie "32 Short Films About Glenn Gould" would be a good starting point.

I also love Virgin Prunes, Pop Group, Raincoats, all that early Rough Trade stuff. And The Fall! And Captain Beefheart! And John Fahey! Almost all of those albums are good! (again, more research recommended).

― sleeve, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, a lot of the stuff I mentioned isn't frenetic/malevolent.

Also, for the Vibrators, get Pure Mania. At this point in my life, I play it more than I do any of the Clash records. It's definitely a work of genius.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nitzer Ebb - That Total Age

Blood-pumping!

― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

Also, for the Vibrators, get Pure Mania. At this point in my life, I play it more than I do any of the Clash records.

Yes to that. And the Damned recommendations. And Talk Talk, and anything Scott said, really.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

get a George Jones compilation

I was looking through my collection the other day for something a little more relaxing, and realized that my options were very slim.

haha i ha(d) this problem in reverse until a couple years ago, in moments of distress I would have to wade through stacks of chamber pop and "post-rock" and singer/songwriter crap to find even one track hard enough to chase away the demons. Hip hop doesn't work, too much to think about. I don't need to rawk often but being caught without is a drag. Favorite metal album so far: Metallica's Kill Em All. baby steps?

― tremendoid, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I wonder if the loads and loads of aggressive metal I listen to contributes to the fact that I'm always stressed out. I realize it probably does, but I love my metal too much to stop listening to it!

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

The Young Gods
Ash Ra Tempel
Jesus Lizard
Bardo Pond
Don Caballero
Fugazi
June Of 44
Oneida
Screaming Trees
Husker Du
Funkadelic
Hawkwind
Comets On Fire

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Charles Mingus - Black Saint And Sinner Lady
Miles Davis - Agharta

and I second Mahavishnu Orchestra.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Industrial Progenitors that a Metal Dude might find really accessible:
Swans - Holy Money
Savage Republic - Ceremonial + Trudge
Big Black - Atomizer, Songs about Fucking
Killing Joke - S/T
Einstruzende Neubaten - Halber Mensch
Birthday Party - Junkyard

Also, Liars - They were wrong so we Drowned is very much along the same lines. For protopunk, Dead Boys and Rocket From the Crypt work very close to Metal, also DMZ. Cramps are a great way to start exploring rockabilly and early R n' B. I'd start with Off the Bone or Bad Music. From there, Johnny Burnette and the R&R Trio and Link Wray are the most proto-metal early rock. Muddy Waters late 40 early 50s are the consistently wild 50s sides, and a good Bo Diddly hits collection will satisfy. Those are the two 50s guitarist who's feel followed through into metal.

― bendy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Metal Dude, how do you feel about droney feedbacky stuff?

Like Goslings or Birchville Cat Motel's 'Our Love Will Destroy the World' perhaps.

― Drooone, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

I may get shatted on for this, but I might suggest one of Miles late electric albums: On the Corner, Agharta, Pangaea. A lot of people will argue about whether or not they're jazz, but whatever the hell they are they're very dense, noisy, and textural. I think they're great NON-METAL STUFF FOR METAL DUDES, but "Kind of Blue" they ain't.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

I may get shatted on for this, but I might suggest one of Miles late electric albums

I think you mean to say 'I may get total and complete agreement for this.'

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening to Merzbeat lately, it's pretty awesome. I think a metal dude would dig it also.

― Drooone, Thursday, 17 May 2007 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

Really, screw whether a particular Miles record is "jazz." I love his quote that he'd play whatever he liked, if he thought he could play it.

Hoos, it's actually amused me that some ILM Miles fans much prefer the electric stuff and have no time for/little familiarity with the vast range of acoustic music.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

The Goslings are brilliant and you could do worse than check out Nadja.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh and James Blackshaw

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the "not jazz" accusations from certain quarters began around the time of Sketches of Spain, for God's sake. xxpost

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

And you could try Envy and Mono and Explosions In The Sky.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

I have a Merzbow CD (Rainbow Electronics, although I'm not sure if there is much of a difference), and it usually gives me a headache whenever I try to listen to it. I will see if your suggestions fare better.

I also like rockabilly a lot (I have a Blasters CD, and some psychobilly stuff like Reverend Horton Heat and Tiger Army). I have lots of Killing Joke, and probably all the PIL I need. And I LOVE Hawkwind and the Screaming Trees.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

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Addendum: Mercury Rev's first two albums. Get them as if your life depended upon it.

― Just got offed, Thursday, 17 May 2007 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I definitely want to check out Foetus (I love his work on Venture Brothers), but I do already have three Orbital records and quite a bit of The Cure. I actually have a lot of the big 90s electronica acts (Underworld, Orbital, Chemical Brothers, The Prodigy), it's the less obvious stuff I have trouble with. I do actually like synthpop stuff a lot as well. Again, I have a lot of the more obvious acts, like The Cure, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Missing Persons, but I'm sure there's a lot of buried treasures I'm not aware of.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Some Synthpop treasures (not exactly buried but if there's any you haven't heard, ya should)--

Blue Nile- Walk Across The Rooftops
Thomas Dolby- The Flat Earth
Shriekback- Care, Jam Science or Oil and Gold
Talk Talk- It's My Life (aside and apart from their recommendations above for their avant phase)
Any OMD album up to about 1984
John Foxx- Metamatic and The Garden

― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

When it comes to 80's synthpop, I'd actually recommend the song 'I'm In Love With A German Filmstar' by The Passions. It doesn't really contain any synth (or anything much except a delay-pedalled guitar) but it is mind-blowing.

― Just got offed, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

How much of this is available on CD? I don't have a record player, or much room for one (I suppose I could put it on top of my stereo, but then I would have to move my Batmobile).

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkismiXva3M

enjoy!

― Just got offed, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Neat! I like female singers, and I like the sort of ethereal quality of the song.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck it, I'm going for the jugular now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpEe0ztq2ck

This ^^^^^^^ is who I am.

― Just got offed, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

If you have the slightest pop/schmaltz bone in your body, check out The Essential Gene Autry: 1933-1946. I've been binge listening to this album for a week now, and I'm loving it so much

― dryga, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I went out and bought that 10 disc "Masters of Classical Music" box set awhile back. Not a bad way to spend $20. Probably not "definitive performances" or anything, but for someone (like me) who isn't terribly familiar with classical music, it's a great overview of 10 of the major composers.

― novaheat, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

country - Steve Earle, Dwight Yoakam, Bobby Pinson, Big and Rich, John Anderson

― gabbneb, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

jazz - Ornette Coleman, John Zorn, Sonny Rollins, Mark Ribot, Anthony Braxton, James Carter

― gabbneb, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

If you like Foetus, check out big Jim's favorite James Brown LP 'Hell'. JB is a genre all by himself, as extreme as you like.

I'm totally from a punk rock/metal background, but was obsessed with Machito's jazz/mambo crossover material for ages - this huge, dark Cuban voodoo sound.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

In terms of classical/orchestral music, there is a whole pile of stuff that corresponds to Extreme Black Metal in terms of bleak mood and uncompromising form - Harrison Birwhistle and Gerard Grisey would be my tips.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

And let's not forget that Grieg figures mightily as an influence for black metal.

― novaheat, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking again of classical music, Arvo Pärt is really amazing.

― novaheat, Thursday, 17 May 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Classical/modern compostion rules over metal and industrial because everyone concerend is much more depressed, much more literate and way, way more techy.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

dude, jeff, you might dig this (mostly) 70's country mix i made too:

Patsy Sledd - Lay Down

JJ - Once A Week Woman

Justin Tubb - Prematurely Blue

Tommy Jackson - Rickets Hornpipe

Cliff Blakley - Key To Happiness

Jack Blanchard & Misty Morgan - A Handfull Of Dimes

Al Dean - Jalisco

Earl Scott - I Feel A Fool (Walkin' In My Shoes)

Nat Stuckey - Sun Comin' Up

Bobby G. Rice - The Whole World's Making Love Again Tonight

Buddy Alan - Down In New Orleans

Red Tuck - I've Stopped Everything (But Loving You)

Kenny Seratt - Blue Jeans & Diamond Rings

Harlan Sanders - She Says I Look Like Daddy

Bobby Binkly - Just A Nickel Piece Of Candy

Osbourne Brothers - Hey, Hey, Bartender

Ernie Ashworth - Wanted Man

Jim Owen - A Gift In The Name Of Love

Tony Douglas - Another Day, Another Dollar

Jerri Kelly - Back-Sliding Man

Claude Gray - Take Off Time

Harlow Wilcox & The Oakies - Moose Trot

James O'Gwynn - Bubbling Over

Meisburg & Walters - High Country

Doug McGuire - Full Moon

? - The Man In The Red Fez

Tina Howell - Your Cheap Love Affair

Ned Miller - Hobo

Billy Mack - Bad People

Chuck Pollard - You Should Win An Oscar Every Night

Leona Williams - I'd Rather Die (Loving Him)

Roy Drusky - When My Room Gets Dark Again

The Blue Boys - Over And Over Again

http://wvvy.org/listen/content/Corn%20Licker%20Mix.mp3

― scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

and there is more where that came from:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=55743

― scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Any OMD album up to about 1984

especially "dazzle ships". you'll appreciate that the most, i think.

also try "reproduction", the first human league album.

as i've said, my journey to metal went something like this:

early-eighties synth stuff -> my bloody valentine (ie guitars that sound like washes of sublime noise) -> mogwai -> isis -> neurosis -> mad shit my metal mates play me but i probably wouldn't listen to all the time.

i don't know how much mogwai you've heard, but try them (and the late, lamented aereogramme). latebloomer beat me to the real punch, though: MBV could be your gateway to a heap of joy.

joy division too, but that's probably too obvious to even mention.

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Meat Beat Manifesto - Armed Audio Warfare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Beat_Manifesto

― PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have a couple Meat Beat Manifesto disks, although not that one.

I basically came to metal because whatever was on alternative rock radio circa 1997-1998 (when I was entering high school) just wasn't doing it for me anymore, and then a friend loaned me The Best of Van Halen and AC/DC's Back in Black, and there was no turning back from there. So I've had to come to everything else the long way around.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, maybe you should just listen to absolute fuckloads of Will Oldham.

― Drooone, Thursday, 17 May 2007 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

This country mix sounds like the music you'd hear playing on a car radio in a Southern horror flick right before the killer smashes through the window and drags the victim out of the car through the window via meat hook. Pretty cool, though.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 17 May 2007 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

If rockabilly and country work for you, google "blackstrap hillbilly boogie" which should bring you to my blog, to the post where I put up a mix tape a friend ([url=[Removed Illegal Link] started this band[url]) made for me in 1991, and changed my life.

― bendy, Friday, 18 May 2007 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

"In terms of classical/orchestral music, there is a whole pile of stuff that corresponds to Extreme Black Metal in terms of bleak mood and uncompromising form - Harrison Birwhistle and Gerard Grisey would be my tips."

Maybe some Birtwistle - "Punch and Judy" esp (just come out on a reissue). Can't agree on Grisey. He is far more even handed, i think.

Classical isn't that depressing at all, and I'm not up to speed on metal (that's understating it) but I get a maddening rush from listening to Ferneyhough's "Carceri d'Invenzionne" and so on. I think there are some specific undercurrents to draw parallels with, if you go by the messing with form/physicality in performance as yr guiding principle.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 May 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I've been looking for a decently priced copy of Loveless, but it isn't easy to find used.

are you not in the US? I'm pretty positive this is bargain priced new at amoeba ($9.99).

― akm, Saturday, 19 May 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Really? I've always looked for it in the used section, never in the new. I'll check next time I'm up in Hollywood. Anyway, a used CD store that's closer to me is having their biannual sale where they dig out all their stuff that they had in storage. I'm going to put together a list of all the suggestions and keep an eye out for them.

― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 19 May 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

how about the non-metal albums in stairway to hell?
http://www.listsofbests.com/list/33406

― abanana, Saturday, 19 May 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! I was going to say I didn't understand Jeff's question. But I never saw that link before; that's insane. I'm amazed somebody took their time to create that. (And yes, very useful indeed I'm sure.)

― xhuxk, Saturday, 19 May 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Just wait until Geir does the poll on all 500 of them!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 19 May 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, Stairway to Hell is what made me want to write about music in the first place (sorry, Chuck!), so I already have that damn thing memorized.

I mean, I suppose I could've just called the thread "Recommend Me Stuff," but I thought it would be a little more interesting if I gave it a thesis, no matter how weak it is. It's a lot to take in, but I'm excited to check out all this new music.

― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 19 May 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

One of my gateways from rock/prog fandom into the wider waters of jazz, hiphop, electronic and funk and dub was the body of work of Bill Laswell (likely plenty of contentious ILM threads related variously to him), especially the releases on his Axiom Records label, including the previously mentioned Sonny Sarrock album.. Albums pull together strands of metal/prog, jazz, rap and turntablism, funk, dub and dub poetry, and a wealth of world music styles. Not everything out there is a ten, but I started with the mid-90's Praxis albums: funk, shred metal, and hiphop like they belong together.

― DJ Logan5, Sunday, 20 May 2007 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, do you mind if I ask how old you are? If you do, never mind and no offense . . .

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 21 May 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

24. I have not been listening to music as long as a lot of people on here (I only really got heavily into it about seven or eight years ago), and my financial situation has yet to solidify, although it should in the next couple weeks. Hence, my asking now.

― Jeff Treppel, Monday, 21 May 2007 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, you look like you're doing fine. I'm still collecting records I couldn't afford to buy 20-plus years ago! While, of course, discovering other stuff old and new. Good luck finding things.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 24 May 2007 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

So! I just came home from the local used CD store with:

Funkadelic- One Nation under a Groove
Roky Erickson - I Have Always Been Here Before (two-disc anthology)
Morphine - Cure for Pain
Wang Chung - Mosaic

(And a metal CD by a band called Accidental Suicide that I couldn't resist because of their name)

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening heavily to One Nation this week. "Out to lunch with lunch meat"! How's Accidental Suicide? I'm coming to this from the opposite direction as you. I love reading about metal, but it's been ages since I've really gotten into anything new -- years and years.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

How about the Jeff Beck fusion shit -"Blow by Blow" and "Wired"?

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

The first not-metal album I loved was Portishead's Dummy. It sounds absolutely nothing like metal, so that's not particularly helpful, sorry.

― chap, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Portishead sound like they would be right up my alley, actually. I saw that the other day, too, but didn't pick it up. Damn.

Jeff Beck is someone I've been meaning to check out more in depth for a while.

And I haven't listened to Accidental Suicide yet. I don't expect it's actually be good. I just liked the name.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 24 May 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm - Morphine - I was listening to Yes and The Night this afternoon at work.

― Jaq, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

six years pass...

haha no one has said deafheaven yet?

― ۩, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:54 (twelve years ago)

They didnt exist and no one thought to search archives to see if there was such a question

― cog, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:08 (twelve years ago)

bob dylan is cool check em out

― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:11 (twelve years ago)

Whoa. I totally forgot that I had started this thread. Kind of embarrassing in hindsight, but also funny that I've actually ended up picking up (and enjoying) a lot of what was recommended to me back then. Suffice to say that my horizons are a lot broader now.

― J3ff T., Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:50 (twelve years ago)

I would also say to check out Van der Graaf Generator (esp in their 1975-6 incarnation) and Last Exit.

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:53 (twelve years ago)

But Anagram, VDGG ARE a metal band! :D

― imago, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 18:57 (twelve years ago)

who are England's answer to black metal, imago?

― ۩, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:04 (twelve years ago)

Charli XCX, obviously

― imago, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 19:13 (twelve years ago)

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