I'll put it out for all the ilx users. What albums have resurrected and reinvented musicians or bands?
― Deirdre22, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
My personal response would be the Beastie Boys 'Check Your Head'. After the brilliant and complex sound of Paul's Boutique, the return to their punk roots i think really showed how musically diverse the Beasties were
― Deirdre22, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:19 (nineteen years ago)
Sorry about the poor grammar
― Deirdre22, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:22 (nineteen years ago)
Swordfishtrombones wiped the notion that Tom Waits was 70s pseudo-beatnik singer songwriter.
― bendy, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)
Some people may disagree with this, but I thought Stillmatic reinvented Nas.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)
I actually haven't heard any of Stillmatic but it seems dwarfed by how epic Illmatic was
― Deirdre22, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:32 (nineteen years ago)
Obviously, "The Man Who" reinvented Travis. Some may claim for the worse, but those of us who love them only do from that album. Strangely, they also showed ability to write great songs, after sounding like Oasis without the good tunes on their debut.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:37 (nineteen years ago)
I disagree.
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:39 (nineteen years ago)
There are of course lots of albums who have reinvented acts for the worse too, Blur's "13", Radiohead's "Kid A" and Talk Talk's "Spirit Of Eden" being among the worst cases.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:42 (nineteen years ago)
we have to be careful here, not to confuse reinvention with just "career-making"...
― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:46 (nineteen years ago)
Moody Blues: Days Of Future Passed Genesis: Trespass David Bowie: Lots of 70s albums. Starting with "The Man Who Sold The World"
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)
There are of course lots of albums who have reinvented acts for the worse too,... Talk Talk's "Spirit Of Eden" being among the worst cases
The Return of the Norwegian Troll
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:48 (nineteen years ago)
Talk Talk used to be a great synthpop band, sounding like a lot of other bands, but that is a good thing as long as they sound like good band.
As soon as you sound like nobody else at all, you have gone too far.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)
The other two examples Geir cites are just as heinous.
― Just got offed, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)
Not if you like good-old classic song-based pop music and want all music to stay like that forever.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)
Blur reinvented themselves in a good way on "Modern Life is Rubbish" though. They should have settled with that formula, not changing at all for the rest of their career.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:53 (nineteen years ago)
Tell that to Ludwig van Beethoven
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)
Ludwig Van Beethoven sounded a lot like Mozart and Haydn. At least his best work did.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:55 (nineteen years ago)
Who did Mozart sound like?
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)
Haydn
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
Who did Haydn sound like?
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
Haydn sounded like Bach's sons, who were considered great composers at the time.
I mean, surely, they all added some trademark elements, but they stuck to the formula, not creating their own formula.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)
take these hands and give yourself a big slap
― Just got offed, Thursday, 24 May 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)
You're beginning to sound like Mike Love, Geir... what am I saying, beginning to??!??!
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)
Well, I want music to sound (forever) like the Brian Wilson music that Mike Love hated.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:34 (nineteen years ago)
So Brian Wilson "stuck to the formula, not creating his own formula" did he?
― Tom D., Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)
GEIR HONGRO IS A PSYCHOPATH AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.
― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
Remember that govt advert where a drinky lad was given the voice of an old woman?
"What's wrong with a good old fashioned sing-song?"
that one?
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)
Bringing It All Back Home: Bob Dylan Saturday Night Fever: Bee Gees Fleetwood Mac: Fleetwood Mac (the 1st one with Lindsay Buckingham & Stevie Nicks)
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:52 (nineteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Kylie-Minogue-Light-Years-164329.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/Believe1998.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/U2_atyclb.png
― Jeb, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Kokomo.jpg
― Jeb, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)
good-old classic song-based pop music
This is a tad vague, no?
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)
beck is reinventing himself with every new album. isn't he?
― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 24 May 2007 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
Wow.
I will keep this in my valise of immortal sayings forever.
My favorite albums list is gonna need some serious ideological cleansing...!
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)
the totalitariat hast won
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)
Scott Walker, Mark Hollis, eYe, you are stand accused of FORMALISM and the wanton CORRUPTION of innocent proletarian tractor drivers.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)
It'll Take A Nation Of Shut-ins To Hold Us Back
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)
this sounds like something gareth would say. or indeed HAS SAID
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
Boy, I spend a lot of time looking for albums like that and now I'm hearing it's a waste of time. Hmm.
I guess Ms. Mitchell made a pretty big shift from Court & Spark to Hissing of Summer Lawns.
― ellaguru, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)
He did nothing that wasn't based on stuff that had already been done before. His genius was in mixing the melodic genius of The Beatles with the harmonies of the Four Freshmen and the orchestral genius of Phil Spector.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
Saturday Night Fever: Bee Gees
The one album to mention would be "Main Course" rather than "Saturday Night Fever". They only reinvented themselves, though, not music in general.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)
(And they would have been better had they stuck to the style of their debut, rather than gradually becoming more MOR with every album, and then going disco from the mid 70s onwards)
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)
GEIR HONGRO IS A PSYCHOPATHPOMP AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)
who's eYe?
― Rich Smörgasbord, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:17 (nineteen years ago)
Chieftain of the Boredoms.
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 25 May 2007 02:26 (nineteen years ago)
What does The Rite of Spring sound like Geir?
(wait for it, wait for it...)
― Hurting 2, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:12 (nineteen years ago)
An obvious one
http://www.rainydawg.org/images/db/large/1081241274.jpeg
― Drooone, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:26 (nineteen years ago)
Nothing else. Which is one reason why it sucked.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 May 2007 07:36 (nineteen years ago)
Byrds- Sweethearts of the Rodeo Yes- 90125
― Joe, Friday, 25 May 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)
I'm beginning to see the shape of Geir consciousness: Guitars and synths can imitate the sounds of other instruments and are championed. Drums and bass ultimately end up sounding like themselves and are therefore shunned. Yet here is Geir paradox: Geir view is famously individual and his words are immediately recoginzable as his own. Would he not shun his own self?
― sexyDancer, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)
Drums and bass are needed. In the background that is.
Btw, drums not being able to sound like anything else? Never heard of those Simmons electric drumsets?
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)
So, the plantation cannot thrive without slaves?
― sexyDancer, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
KEEP MUSIC LIVE
xpost
― tissp, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)