Eminem Singles Poll

No D12?

forgot about dre

Ass Like That or Business.

Psych.

He put out a lot more shitty singles than I thought.

yeh it's like 50/50

Without Me (followed closely by Lose Yourself, The Real Slim Shady, and Ass Like That)

"Forgot About Dre" wasn't late '99??

it was on a late '99 album, but I don't think it was a single/video til 2000.

I was all "Eminem sucks, Eminem is so passe" until two days ago, when I heard "Lose Yourself" on the radio for the first time since whenever and remembered what was so amazing about it. So there's my vote.

ILM used to love chatting about this dude;

"The Eminem Show" vs "Rock Steady" vs "Discovery"
would ethan sleep with eminem ?
Chainsaw-wielding Eminem impersonator caused PANIC!
Eminem - He has movie now
Eminem may not play the Oscars
Terror Squad f. Eminem & Mase - Lean Back (Remix)
if you want to see eminem in london for £5...
Ten Words Or Less: Eminem
Tori Amos covering Eminem 97 Bonnie and Clyde
Taking Sides: Eminem vs. I-Roy
Eminem-Without Me........initial response?
Eminem: Classic or Dud?
Taking Sides: Moby vs. Eminem
The Eminem Show
Taking Sides: Eminem vs The Bloodhound Gang
Taking Sides: Eminem vs. the Sex Pistols
the connection between eminem and bruce wayne
Eminem - I can't stand him, why is he so praised?
Taking Sides: Axl Rose vs. Eminem
Eminem "saves" rock 'n' roll!
Eminem, "Square Dance" and The Dirty South
Eminem - "Cleaning Out My Closet"
Neo-Nazi Rock, Eminem + Free Speech Debate
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=11556
Eminem-My Name Is, slightly dated?
Eminem vs. Harry Allen
Eminem Album Titles, what's next?
TS: Elvis Presley vs Eminem
suitability of Eminem for children
Top 20 Rappers More Melodic Than Eminem
Eminem - "Sing for the Moment": C/D?
BURNING QUESTION: eMInem vs Kid Rock... who is your man?

the harry allen shits on eminem article. where?
Eminem record, due 2004
eminem f dmx and obie trice - go to sleep
Eminem
Eminem and Fiddy do Milton Keynes
obie trice f eminem and 50 cent - we all die one day
eminem productions?
Eminem is ruining hip-hop production
Song ID: cheeseball pop-techno-trance song that uses Eminem "Without Me" melody
I can't believe what Eminem did last night
Article response: Eminem
THAT eminem link to supposedly racist lyrics
Eminem responds with new statement about Source/freestyle controversy
Eminem - "We As Americans"
Eminem - "Can I Bitch" - fun, fun, fun!
Basement Jaxx, Eminem, The Streets, Dizzee Rascal: is this you?
Taking Sides: The Supernaturals Vs Eminem
RFI: Unknown Dr. Dre / Eminem-Sounding Production
Eminem in the Source
"I heard that song 'Stan' by Eminem, it's really good! So I bought that Marshall Mathers album. I like it a lot!" and other evidence that my mom is putting away her Carole King records for good
Eminem Vs Cassidy?
Did You See The Beastie Boys On The MTV Movie Awards? (This Is An Eminem Thread)

1. my name is
2. the way i am
3. forgot abt dre
4. without me
5. stan
6. dead wrong :C
7. clea-- needs more advanced voting system!!

8. weird al's "lose yourself"

why can i not post anymore links?

that is a fuckload of eminem threads

BUT that's only half of them!

was 'mosh' not a single? not that i would've voted for it anyways.

"Cleanin Out My Closet" has several hints of being a good song.

Busy tonight, acrobat?

If it'd been a single, I'd have voted for his Jay Z collab "Renegade."

Fa' sho

Alfred Soto. I am trying to make an IMPORTANT POINT about how Eminem has gone from "most important voice of his generation" / "best poet since keats" to... and some of those threads are piss funny.

Y know now is a weird time to talk about Em' cos he is in that position where he is no longer the great cultural talking point but history / his status in the canon has yet to solidify.

Eminem/Mary-Kate Ashley faux pas

Taking Sides (in a ruck): Tag Team Terror! Liam Gallagher and Ian Brown Vs 50 Cent and Eminem
"Lean Back" (remix) feat. Mase, Eminem & Lil' Jon
eminem - just lose it
was there a track out earlier this year produced by eminem with verses by both biggie and tupac?
you know, the new eminem song isnt that bad
Michael Jackson to Eminem: "Hey, you're mean."
eminem - mosh
Eminem - One Last Time
Eminem on SNL
The Grand Ol' Eminem - Encore thread
eminem inadvertantly supporting Women's Refuge and youth suicide prevention in New Zealand
Eminem/Mary-Kate Ashley faux pas
Eminem Secret London Gig - He Mimed
TS: Eminem Vs. Benzino
Who is the eminem of grime?
Weird Al interviews Eminem
Sasha on Shadow, Diplo, Eminem & Minstrelsy
TS: Eminem vs Sophie Ellis Bextor
Eminend -- Eminem bows out
Eminem and Courtney Love Go To Rehab (not a Jimmy Stewart film)
Eminem – Curtain Call
Eminem Live in NY is premiering tonight on Showtime with some additional good news
The New Believer Has A Seven-Page Xgau Article About Eminem
Eminem, unretired.
eminem versus stereolab
EMINEM: Bad fruit or good wine?
Eminem Singles Poll

In 2000, Axl Rose dissapears off the radar for the last time.

In 2001, Dr Dre sees nonexistant talent in the foul-mouthed white boy who was shining his shoes in front of the Safeway.

Coincidence...or Conspiracy?
-- Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Sunday, 18 August 2002 14:22 (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

i'm still waiting for history/the canon to fully acknowledge how totally goddamn weird those first two eminem albums are. they are by far the weirdest megaselling records of my lifetime. even weirder than prince. like zappa/beefheart/kool keith levels of weirdness but they sold millions and millions. i guess because the "white boy rapper" thing somewhat obscured what a very strange white boy rapper he was. (not that the 3rd and 4th albums aren't weird, but it had started to turn shticky by then and also he wasn't as angry or funny anymore.)

i voted "the way i am" just because.

plenty of mega-selling rap albums are weirder, but i guess you mean white rapper weirdness

Definitely Drug Ballad for me! I didn't know it was a single, though.

drug ballads top billin jack is classic but the raps is ehhh

best rapping - forgot about dre, but best song - stan

write in: square-dance

plenty of mega-selling rap albums are weirder, but i guess you mean white rapper weirdness

depends on how you define weirdness i guess, or mega-selling. sonically weirder for sure, but i dunno subject-wise. who are you thinking? none of the other top 10 or 20 megaselling rappers seem as weird to me. better, some of them, obviously, but not weirder.

which of those links shouldn't i click

Y know now is a weird time to talk about Em' cos he is in that position where he is no longer the great cultural talking point but history / his status in the canon has yet to solidify.

Eminem's status in the canon will remain dependant first and foremost on his first two albums and their critical status over time. The fact that his album releases these days are less popular and less acclaimed doesn't mean anything as they weren't what put him in the canon in the first place.

Now here's the guy that, looking back, should've been first in that "Fading Stars of This Decade" thread I started awhile back. It's really amazing to look back at those first few videos and singles as it's one of the first times I see something from this decade and am appalled by how dated it is.

that's the point. it's weird looking back at all these threads with their hysterical proclomations of genius and then actually listening again to the music. i have a feeling eminem's not gonna get "cannonized" as such cos the rock and pop chattering classes who so liked discussing the phenomenon have very little interest in him after the novelty and panic has gone. perhaps it's always been easier to talk about 'em in the discourse of rock shock rather than y know hip hop.

geir you are quite wrong. his later work will influence the way he is thought of overall, i'm sure you can think of artists who, perhaps in the short term, have had their earlier work overshadowed by later "mistakes".

What's also funny about Eminem is that, though he was definitely around during the "internet era," he seems to belong to a certain period that's come and gone. He was one of the last artists that was tremendously popular before mp3 players really eclipsed CDs and before social networking. Had Eminem's career arc been just a little bit different he could've been the archetype that would've been all over the place when Myspace exploded two or three years ago. My goodness, Panic Over My Chemical Fallout isn't nearly so bad when you remember that Durst/Eminem ruled the same demographic years earlier and their influence was thankfully waning around the time teenagers were putting themselves on the internet.

hmm there's an arguement that could be put that Panic Over My Chemical Fallout are actually reflective of their digital mileu. that their of feminized narcistic aggression is a lot more in tune with the myspace culture than the nu-metal lot. it's a chicken / egg thing maybe.

Oh sure. That's a very good point. Still, I'm thankful Eminem/Durst worship missed the myspace/e-hype bus right when it was picking up steam.

geir you are quite wrong. his later work will influence the way he is thought of overall

Obviously this happened to Prince, for instance.

Hasn't happened, I mean

Is Eminem really a part of the nu metal movement? Sure he was around at the same time and similarly "angry" but he got a hell of a lot more kudos than anyone vaguely connected with that stuff ever got. Linkin Park could possibly be the link between that stuff and Panic Over My Chemical Fallout. Hybrid Theory is, lest we forget, the biggest selling rock album this decade right?

I started this thread cos of a post i made on this thread: why is it acceptable to disparage the white (british) working classes?

jus observing my 16 yr old brother's friends it seems emo and indie are sort of collapsing into each other, with stuff like hellogoodbye, fall out boy, the gossip and the klaxxons all seemingly occupying the same place, even hip hop and rnb seems a lot more "acceptable". when i was his age there was little musical common ground between the kids into limp bizkit, the kids into badly drawn boy and the kids into irv gotti. oh apart from eminem. everyone liked eminem.

-- acrobat, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 15:48 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I sort of surprised myself remembering how utterly massive Eminem was for a few years.

Although Eminem is white, raps and is hated by parents and teachers for his language and lyrics, doesn't mean he is nu metal.

Of course not. I was referring more to audience in regards to massive popularity amongst teenage boys than the music.

Eminem was in Kerrang! during their big shorts era, if he wasn't nu-metal in sound he was in spirit.

that's the thing thou he was so dominant cos he captured every possible market. i mean he was melody maker album of the year 2000, he was inescapable. i mean has anyone else bridged the divides of pop / rock / rap in the same way since? could it even happen again?

too many "i means".

The persona is kind of interesting. I mean, he was this über-macho arrogant guy dissing just about everyone and everything. And in the same breath he sort of introduced emotion into two cultures ("white trash and hip-hop) that have mostly been considerably more about macho than about emo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaM-d9Ymou8
^greatest eminem verse

Didn't he have a couple of singles on Rawkus? (if thousands-selling Rawkus vinyl count as singles in this way)

1. "Forgot About Dre"
2. "Smack That"
3. "Guilty Conscience"

I voted for "Ass Like That" because it's the one that gets stuck in my head the most - even though I would have to say the best by FAR are "Lose Yourself" and "Without Me."

Also, my most neglected thread ever:

TS: Ass Like That vs. Just Lose It

Actually, looking down that list of releases it sort of gives the lie to how inescapably huge Eminem was. I mean, he was, but look at these numbers:

2000 "The Way I Am" 58 26 - 8 The Marshall Mathers LP
2001 "Drug Ballad" - 71 - - The Marshall Mathers LP
2002 "My Dad's Gone Crazy" - 64 - - The Eminem Show
2002 "Business" - 77 25 - The Eminem Show
2002 "8 Mile" - 54 - - 8 Mile Soundtrack
2004 "Encore" (featuring Dr. Dre & 50 Cent) 25 48 20 - Encore
2005 "Like Toy Soldiers" 34 64 - 1 Encore
2005 "Ass Like That" 60 93 - 4 Encore

So it's not like <i>everything</i> he touched turned to gold. At the same time, though, you look at the shockingly high performance of clearly b-list material ("Sing For The Moment" at #14, for example) and you have to say there's no way it would have charted that high except that it was an Eminem single...

all those ones released in the uk did crazy good thou. but then i don't understand the us charts.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

The persona is kind of interesting. I mean, he was this über-macho arrogant guy dissing just about everyone and everything. And in the same breath he sort of introduced emotion into two cultures ("white trash and hip-hop) that have mostly been considerably more about macho than about emo.

-- Geir Hongro, Friday, June 1, 2007 6:34 PM (Friday, June 1, 2007 6:34 PM) Bookmark Link

I'm sort of surprised at this post, coming from someone who thinks the only interesting thing about music is the, uh, music.

Btw, "Real Slim Shady" totally got robbed in this poll. I didn't vote for it, but it would've been my #2.

2005 "Ass Like That" 60 93 - 4 Encore 2
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What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Singles #s twos through sixes are good, but "Without Me" is an atrocity.

i thought 'mosh' was a single? not that i'd've ticked it though the video is great. hurrah for 'drug ballad' reppers.

'the real slim shady' is everyone's 2nd favourite em single.

not really

wow fucking horrible results!

^^^ this

Haha I totally agree with the results of this poll (other than that "The Real Slim Shady" is way too low).

Basically, his good/bearable songs are the top 7 and everything else can fuck a hat (except I kind of love "Guilty Conscience" even though objectively I think it sux).

If it'd been a single, I'd have voted for his Jay Z collab "Renegade."

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:50 AM

FOR THE WIN

How did Dead Wrong place so low?

At least it wasn't...Dead Last!

I'm still bitter that "Cleaning Out My Closet" was SPIN's best single of 2002. What were they thinking?

business and guilty conscience are both good

guilty conscience is amazing!

this thread made me want to dig out that old rawkus soundbombing 2 and hear "any man"

Blown away that "Without Me" won by such a margin. "The Real Slim Shady" got 3 votes????

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