I think they're comparable. "Set You Free" was in some ways the "Strawberry Fields Forever" of the 90s. Both songs locate the exalted within a kind of veiled kitsch. Desire as comedy sketch.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)
well, n-trance, obviously.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)
great run of singles.
As I think about it more actually, what's always been most compelling about "Set You Free" is its ambiguous mixture of emotional sincerity and emotional condescension. Desire as playground bully.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
"Set You Free" is one of the most eschatological pop songs ever written, but the heaven it envisions is self-repudiating. Desire as collapsed eternity.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)
Life, oh life, oh life, oh life, doo, doot doot dooo. Life, oh life, oh life, oh life, doo, doot dooo
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)
Desire as Des'ree.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
The Beatles were a great band, but they were also possibly the greatest advertisement for the banning of music. "Strawberry Fields Forever" tried to offer a way out of this confusion. Did it succeed? I think 9/11 provided the answer to that.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
I'd like to eat a Christmas cake But I'd fear seeming like a fake I'd rather jump in a lake
Life oh life
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)
EXACTLY.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)
I think the Beatles were the last band not to understand the potential of innovation. Their innovation was a cardboard cut-out of populism. Innovation as inverted democratic nostalgia.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)
now we've got a three-way grudge match.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)
Des'ree's 'You gotta be' is kind of what the beatles were aiming for on the Get back sessions, but couldn't have come near however hard they tried. Desire as a big fat Ringoesque sham.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:35 (seventeen years ago)
xxpost Last statement is wrong on two counts, Beatlesband definitely understood potential of innovation, at least until the White album and several bands since them have purposefully avoided any interest or desire to innovate.
― Billy Dods, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)
Though you are right about Set Me Free.
― Billy Dods, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)
N-Trance is what the beatles could have been if they'd gone back in time, stolen Louis armstrong's band, killed Hitler, and taken snuff with Conan Doyle.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)
Proportional representation as the chained leg of Desire.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)
Des'ree airbrushed out of the same photo next to Lenin and Trotsky.
― Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)
"You gotta be" was the first manifestation of post-Fukuyama MOR.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)
First-past-the-post as the denial of the bawdy.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)
N-Trance's version of "Stayin Alive", in contrast to "Set You Free", is the musical equivalent of a hung parliament.
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
Enjoying this thread.
― chap, Sunday, 22 June 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)
Nate Dogg
― The Reverend, Sunday, 22 June 2008 20:06 (seventeen years ago)
Kelly Llorenna's abrasive vocal delivery on "Set You Free" = what Paul McCartney was aiming for on "Helter Skelter".
― Freedom, Sunday, 22 June 2008 21:49 (seventeen years ago)
I think the rerelease of "Set You Free" in the 00s was N-Trance's first gesture of self-victimisation, their Plastic Ono Band. Desire as therapy session.
― Freedom, Monday, 23 June 2008 10:51 (seventeen years ago)
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― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 23 June 2008 10:54 (seventeen years ago)
-- Frogman Henry, Sunday, 22 June 2008 20:22
This is what happens when dogma overrides reason.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:04 (seventeen years ago)
GET RAW WITH THE FEVER ON THE DANCE FLOOR
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:04 (seventeen years ago)
No thanks; it makes me think of Spandau Ballet's "Raw."
― Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:18 (seventeen years ago)
N-Trance is what The Beatles could have been if Charles Manson had killed all the band members and started releasing albums himself under the Beatles monicker.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:23 (seventeen years ago)
Only murder can set you free.
― Freedom, Monday, 23 June 2008 11:41 (seventeen years ago)