When should Jarvis Cocker have stopped?

his american audience was always quite small, but maybe they're loyal (i wouldn't know)

I like to pretend he didn't even start until 2006. Pulp, outside of a few songs, is meh. All his solo stuff so far is gran diddly grand!

That's crazy talk.

I've been known to speak in that tongue.

Quite glad that he isn't a Tory after all.

I don't think we can confirm that until Marcello posts, sorry James

His forthcoming album is terrible. Not sure what's worse, when he attempts to 'rock out' or be a little 'country'. It makes the 2nd Bernard Butler album seem a wildfire of excitement in comparison.

voted 'I am american'

I haven't heard his latest album tho, maybe I will stop being american if it is bad

looks like shipman with that beard

You forgot the Relaxed Muscle era, and I'd have said just before then.

I can't begrudge the man for wanting to make new records, have a career and such, but if he'd quit after Hardcore, his legend would have been perfectly sealed.

"We love life" is a fine record.

I'm thinking We Love Life would go down better now than it did at the time - all that stuff about trees and nature and vaguely Balearic songs like Sunrise and doing gigs in forests etc. It felt very incongruous in 2001.

We Love Life was the swansong, and a fine one it was too (songs like Wickerman, I Love Life and Sunrise are stone-cold classic) but since then :-/ so 2001 it is

I am an American and thus still enjoy his increasingly tired schtick

haven't heard the new one but that first solo record suited me fine

xxp Thanks for the confirmation that We Love Life was in fact Pulp's final album.

Well, it FELT like a swansong, I mean. The fact it ended with Sunrise. Going out on a skyscraping high.

I'd put his first solo album below Different Class/His N'Hers and above We Love Life. Possibly just above Hardcore. The fact that lots of people are being very sniffy about his new album is makeing me very keen to hear it, especially if he's rocking out again.

or 'making' me keen to hear it, even.

dammit Different Class was by far far FAR the weakest of their later-period albums

Oh, you contrarian. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

i think so!

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00050/SNN1221A_50679a.jpg
Jarvis impersonating Rolf Harris on "Stars In Their Eyes" in 2002 - he won as well

Rolf Harris was a homosexual French painter?

"can you see what it is yet?" joke in.. oh wait

"Is that a Stylophone in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

JC is only a part time Rolf Harris impersonator - he's only Rolf on Saturday, OK?

eh, I've got no problem with him continuing on doing what he's doing. There are far more offensive cases of overstaying welcomes out there.

If Jarvis went away where would I get my celebrity look-a-like money from?

Harold Shipman?

I've only heard one song off the new album and it's terrible. I'd say the last song I liked was "Running The World". He should've stopped then.

Which is the vote for after "Help the Aged" on Ali G.?

I've only heard one song off the new album and it's terrible.

according to chris evans on his radio show yesterday, the new single, angela (?), takes at least 3 listens before you can begin to enjoy it.

We Love Life, like others have said, is vastly underrated. Jarvis is OK, haven't heard the new one yet, but he should continue and i'm an American.

2002, because the last Pulp album was great, and his solo album not so much.

yea i forgot relaxed muscle and... argh. forgotten. something to do with all seeing i?

he wrote some lyrics for them

and sang one of them, when Christie or Oakey didn't have time. all were great btw.

nrq forgot the harry potter supergroup too.

according to chris evans on his radio show yesterday

the voice of authority!

Y'all are forgetting his subbing for Christie on TOTP one week:

man, he really sells it, don't he?...that's some quality panther-walking there...

The first Pulp Peel Session was actually very good. Otherwise, please keep him/them far from me.

sorry for forcing you into the thread Bimble :(

Wait, why does Bimble hate Pulp?? I don't get it.

I don't know, dude. They just rub me the wrong way. But relax, there's plenty of other decent Britpop-era bands to go around.

I'll get me coat.

As you should. I haven't seen Jarvis live in a while, but he's something astounding to watch, isn't he?

sorry for forcing you to buy the All Seeing I album Bimble :(

The video for 'Don't Let Him Waste Your Time' is somewhat great but does not redeem the rest of his recent career.

He was on something a couple of months ago playing solo-acoustic Pulp songs. This must never be done.

The first Pulp Peel Session was actually very good. Otherwise, please keep him/them far from me.

Reason for Jarvis to continue exhibit a.

he should have never started, to begin with.

the poll is a false dichotomy, except not with two choices... but i dont know what to call a question with 20 false answers

i just dl/'ed the album teaser from emusic and it a grate Mott -ish glam stomper

icosahedrotomy?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

You forgot the Relaxed Muscle era, and I'd have said just before then.

― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 12:30

otm.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Hahaha well I guess that's not too surprising.

Is there an American equivalent of Cocker? A person whom Americans' think has grown long in the tooth but the English still find tolerable and interesting? The first person that came to mind, ironically, was Michael Jackson.

come on , who doesn't find michael jackson interesting?

i still don't get the americans love jarvis thing, the guy has zero commercial success here unless i'm missing something

Uh-oh, this guy is on Question Time tonight.

i still don't get the americans love jarvis thing, the guy has zero commercial success here unless i'm missing something

― velko, Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:43 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think it's more like he's not famous enough here to be known among people who wouldn't like his music. a cult artist can't have 'high negatives' if most of the people who've heard of them comprise their fanbase.

I'm looking forward to his QT appearance. I wonder how the inevitable MJ question is going to be framed. I wonder, too, how he will interact with the 'cunts still running the world' (or at least the country).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/tvandradioblog/2009/jul/03/jarvis-cocker-question-time

is the subtext to this: underqualified britpop guy talking about current affairs? that's my job!

it's not actually obvious that jarvis would be against grammar schools tbh. i think he just generally thinks things should be more like they were in the seventies.

I'm not enjoying writing this, incidentally

what a coincidence...

lol