electroclash ? no........no.....ummmm......no, no sorry still not getting it.

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felix da h.c. on radio one last night presenting a half hr. docu saying/playing the same stuff (fischer/peaches/sunglasses at night/tigre /"its a return to song based stuff" bla bla...)

thing is it's just *london* where this is happening, and it ISNT more songbased than french house or orbital or underworld or the streets or...anything except, like, hard techno !!

just cause a song's got a bloke going 'sunglasses at night' over + over - that's not a song ! not like 'just 1 kiss' is !! this doesn't sound influenced by soft cell/dm/abc et al and it won't cross over like they want it to.

fischerspooner ? i'd like to see that take off in barnsley. it didn't even work live *in london* !!

quote from last night's doc. - "u know it's really taking off when the music press take an interest..."

erm romo anyone ? romo, romo, ROMO ? hello ?

when the kids like it 1st, the press follow, it's not the other way round (unless you count the strokes phenom.)

ooh peaches has had a top 10 hit, and A record company has signed A electro band.

one good thing that i heard last night was that it's called 'disco nouveaux' now not synthcore or whatever. i liked that for about 10 seconds and then peaches starts going 'f*ck the pain away, f*ck the pain away...' and was all spoiled.

over by xmas.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Could somebody explain to me what electroclash is, and what it's core bands are?

― A Nairn, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Subject: electropop? no........no.....ummmm......no, no sorry still not getting it.

peter powell on radio one last night presenting a half hr. docu saying/playing the same stuff (abc/soft cell/depeche mode/human league/"its a return to song based stuff" bla bla...) thing is it's just *london* where this is happening, and it ISNT more songbased than stars on 45 or fred wedlock or bucks fizz or the nolans or...anything except, like, theatre of hate!!

just cause a song's got a bloke going 'tainted love' over + over - that's not a song ! not like 'son of my father' is !! this doesn't sound influenced by kraftwerk/donna summer/hot butter et al and it won't cross over like they want it to.

culture club? i'd like to see that take off in barnsley. it didn't even work live *in london* !!

quote from last night's doc. - "u know it's really taking off when the music press take an interest..."

erm punk anyone ? punk, punk, PUNK? hello ?

when the kids like it 1st, the press follow, it's not the other way round (unless you count the punk rock phenom.)

ooh heaven 17 has had a top 10 hit, and A record company has signed A electro band.

one good thing that i heard last night was that it's called 'new romantic' now not new wave or whatever. i liked that for about 10 seconds and then nick straker band starts going 'a walk in the park, a step in the dark...' and was all spoiled.

we'll all be dead by xmas so why get so worked up about it? enjoy yourself while you're here.

― Schoolly Schama, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can we stop all this electro questioning once and for all?

RFIs are fine of course but just because you don't like it and there are a few fucking convenient cheap digs "it's a fad", "it's very like the 80s" at hand doesn't mean we need to have our 13th electro thread of the last 3 months.

Maybe it will be over by Christmas, DAMN! then I won't be able to like it anymore!!!!!!!!

― Ronan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

does Sophie Ellix-Bextor count as electroclash? if not the genre is rendered worthless.

― Sophie #1 Phan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(chuckles heartily) fair enough schooly, fair enuff. you over-egged it a bit with 'son of my father' though.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Peaches has a top 10 hit?!

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, top 40. Got B-Listed at Radio 1 an' all.

― Mr Swygart, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

which song is it? Set it Off?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry yeah i meant top 40.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yep. Also did the vocals on Basement Jaxx's top 30 smash Get Me Off. That Top Of The Pops appearance cannot be that far away.

― Mr swygart, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

she will drip with villainous disdain, of that you can be sure

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Isn't Electroclash just a genre for music journalists anyway? Like No-Name, the bands within it seem to have precious little in common (apart from some vague elements which I could hear in one of 849 IDM bands with a sense of melody), and just seem to get banded together because certain publications can't approach a story now without an obligatory "NEW SCENE! WE WERE THERE FIRST, IF YOU IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE WHO WAS THERE".

And Fischerspooner are surprisingly good.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh alot of the acts are kind of alike. Felix Da Housecat ain't part of it though.

I don't think it's a scene, in the sense of it being created, I do think it is a fully fledged genre now, there are way more bands than say the indie garage thing. Fischerspooner are wicked yes. I love all this stuff, to hell with scenes, journos, and the fucking 80s. I like it because it means I don't need to listen to guitars to get a rock fix.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan, you should listen to Adult, then! I like the headbangery aspirations of some of the Detroit electro folks. And J. Marlon Magas, of Tracer's much-loved Chicago no-wavers Lake of Dracula: he's buddy-buddy with Ersatz Audio now, Tracer, it's hesher-electro. (Have I already told you this?)

― nabisco%%, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Genre creation = Identity formation.
Not only relevant for the journalists, but also for the bands and fans. Everyone needs to feel part of a group.
This makes it easier for us, who do not like it, to ridicule it.

― Adorno, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

blow it out yr ass A-DUMB-o

― Hesher 1, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What do people think of LHB's "Everybody Sees It On My Face"? I like it a lot - it really sort of gives weight to all the stuff in synthpop that electroclash actively sidelines (warmth, emotion etc.) while still getting that lovely motorik glide down perfectly. I suppose it's not really electroclash at all, but I wanted an excuse to mention it.

― Tim, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

could someone please make links to all the electro threads?

― , Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do think it is a fully fledged genre now, there are way more bands than say the indie garage thing

What Indie garage thing?

― Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thing is it's just *london* where this is happening

I spent a few months in Germany a year ago and this stuff was all over the charts (Tiga, Toktok, Console, Westbam) and everywhere on Viva/MTV Germany, is it just the UK adopting it late?

― Siegbran Hetteson, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the missing link is the one where everyone suddenly "gets it"

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The "it's just RoMo all over again" argument is v.weak indeed. Though there are some similarities in ideas (reinvention, flamboyance etc plus dumb reductive synth=80s thinking from its critics and ludicrously generous advances from record labels), there is NO similarity in sound and whereas RoMo pretty much existed ONLY in London, electroclash is already 1000 times more massive. So please STOP IT

― jamesmichaelward, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Electroclash = imagined entirely by ILM posters

― DG, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Indie Garage Thing = Poptones Records, pretty much (which is annoying, cos I really love the Sing-Sing album, and all anyone knows Poptones is for is The Hives, and that's quite annoying really cos Sing-Sing are a billion times better even if their bassist doesn't have a comedy moustache as such). This theory that every new band around nowadays with guitars is influenced by the Stooges and anyone that isn't IS SHIT because they are TWEE and DULL and SHIT unless they are Coldplay because people quite like them or Starsailor because we said they were the best band ever and we'd look a bit silly if we went back on that within the next five years or Travis because they always seem to be available for interview but other than that they're all SHIT.

Gotta get this monkey off my back...

― Mr swygart, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mr swygart: Oh right, its a phrase used by people who don't know what they are talking about.

I've yet to hear any electroclash as vital or fresh as - The Ditrbombs 'Ultrglide..', Detroit Cobras ' Life, Love..' or The Come Ons 'Hip Check' a few of dozens of examples (and I've been looking!). Its a bit disappointing there isn't all that many UK examples though.

― Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

buff medways alexander, buff medways!

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Funnily enough Mr Stir, I was musing on electroclash's limited scope - and its ability to extend that scope earlier tonight when listening to Frenchbloke's 'Fascinating' remix, where he mashes in Phil Oakey vocals onto 'Sunglasses'. Its a lovely piece of craftmanship as always, but where a lot of other bootleg remixes expose new positive aspects of the source, I think this remix reveals how limited electroclash is, how narrow its ambition is, how limited its impact will be.

In terms of a phenomenon the Romo comparisons seem pretty accurate - the climate is now more suited to hyping though - and the target audience has much less knowledge (or interest) in history, so can be resold it without complaint. Thats not a bad thing or a good thing.

Anyway, I still like Orlando.

― Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just looked up Buff Medways on the modern internet and its Billy Childish - I always liked all them bands starting with 'thee' but my attention kinda wandered of late. Are they any good?

I actually considered and rejected metioning The Flaming Stars in my 'where is the UK indie garage' ponderings, but decided they weren't really what I meant. I love the Flaming Stars though. Max DeCarne seems to be writing for Uncut recently.

― Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there's a buff medways track on s******o.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Electroclash CD free with new Muzik magazine

new Muzik magazine on sale Wednesday 10th July has a free 19 track electroclash mix CD by Miss Kittin.

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You are all so rock it hurts. You think this new electroclash shite all came from RoMo and New Wave. Whatever. The attitude maybe, but not really. Stuff like Adult. and Felix Da Housecat is straight up electric boogaloo. You ever heard of Egyptian Lover? Newcleus? Afrika Bambaataa?!!!

― Timothy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, and 'electroclash' doesn't sound much like them: much less emphasis on drum sounds and patterns. It doesn't sound that much like Soft Cell or the Human League either, granted.

― Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

something that does sound a bit like soft cell/ marc almond, is an artist called Patrick Wolf he is signed to Capitol K's new label, 'Faith & Industry', I just want to lay down a marker - that Patrick Wolf has the potential to be a big player in electro-pop.

John Kennedy on Xfm has played Patrick Wolf's forthcoming single, Bloodbeat several times - and has stated he got tons of positive feedback when he plays it.

It's an infectious piece of uptempo electronic pop, with an engaging vocal style that reminds me a bit of Marc Almond on top form with Soft Cell - on "Soul Inside".

― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry martian, but i think mr. wolf's voice is his greatest weakness, with the emphasis on the weak.

as for electroclash (or as i prefer it - electroc(l)a$h) / synthcore / disco nouveau / ebm / new beat / electropop / electrobeat / whatever you want to call it - like any other genre - 99% of it is bound to be shit, and the 1% that is great will transcend the genre anyway.

like early rave, i think a lot of people are going to be left with a lot of disposable records in their collection and a handful of cherished classics.

i play some of this music at my club which led to it horrendously being labelled 'the uk's number one electroclash club'. laugh, i nearly choked on my throbbing gristle records.

i still can't help but think that daniel miller made the definitive electroc(l)a$h song back in 1978 with warm leatherette.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"like early rave, i think a lot of people are going to be left with a lot of disposable records in their collection and a handful of cherished classics."

WTF???? You say that like it's a *bad* thing!

― Tim, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a lot of people are going to be left with a lot of disposable records in their collection and a handful of cherished classics

sounds like almost *any* collection of a significant size.

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

like early rave, i think a lot of people are going to be left with a lot of disposable records in their collection and a handful of cherished classics.

oh, don't do this to me! if you have loads of disposable early rave, PLEASE donate to meeeeee!

― gareth, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Timothy: You ever heard of Egyptian Lover? Newcleus? Afrika Bambaataa?!!!

Tom: Yeah, and 'electroclash' doesn't sound much like them

There's a second Dr Lektroluv compilation just out, which IIRC attempts to juxtapose both old and nu-electro. Sounded excellent in the shop. It's on my "to buy" list.

― Jeff W, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A friend (a music journalist, natch) is taking me to an Electroclash club on Saturday, so I can find out what all the fuss is about. She says that I must hear it and be drunk and dance around to it to understand it. Erm, OK. But then again, isn't *ANY* music fun to dance about to while pissed? I'll even dance to Sweet Home Alabama while pissed.

― kate, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm wondering whether electroclash is actually the new (or perhaps inverted) lo-fi? I do love some of the songs (I imagine I'd like them better in UK Garage guise), but I'm not very stimulated by the regressive nature of the sonic asceticism. It's a fine project to validate the sounds and works of the 80s, but why not listen to the original works themselves rather than do analog-synth identikit sonic- covers. By retro-disco contrast, at least Masters at Work update the production even on their straight Salsoul covers like "Runaway." Also, I think Daft Punk doing "Face to Face" is a far more interesting take on the 80s than electroclash, where Todd Edwards sings a Latin Freestyle vocal over 808/909ish drum sounds, but juxtaposing those retro elements with the emotional impact of his innovative sampling style.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer whatever you're describing it's not "electroclash".

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Electro is hard enough to dance to sober, let alone drunk, it's like trying to do a robot impression.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

b-b-but "The Robot" rocks!! "The greatest gift the black man ever gave the white man was The Robot." - my friend Alister

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha, it's definitely one of those things you do when you've had too much of whatever and you're thinking "I AM SO GOOD AT THIS! I LOOK SO GOOD!". Alas.

― paddymcgillicudy, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why the hell did my name say that?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tracer, let me try to explain better. If electroclash = Fischerspooner, Tiga, Peaches, Felix etc; then that's exactly what I mean. These artists are all taking the Stereolab approach (i.e. lo- fi, analog, anachronistic, regressive), but making house or electro style music with it.

I was using Masters at Work to describe an earlier example of engaging the past (i.e. Paradise Garage and disco).

...and I was using Daft Punk as an example of a more interesting product of a retro 'tude.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

These artists are all taking the Stereolab approach (i.e. lo- fi, analog, anachronistic, regressive), but making house or electro style music with it.
There is so much wrong with this sentence, I don't know where to start.

― Jeff W, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

whats wrong with the statement jeff?

― gareth, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer, the acts you mention just don't feel regressive to me. I accept that they do to you, but by my lights they are very very modern. They've stripped down and roughed up their sound, yes, but it's not a simple going-back-time operation, it's more risky than that. In addition to the squelchy lo-fi techniques you associate with Stereolab (and I can see this) Fischerspooner et al are making use not just of new production techniques but of all manner of funny noises and combinations that would have been unthinkable in the 80s. The attitude also feels qualitatively different - a lot of new vocal electro's got a dark driving sheen that I associate with classic Detroit techno but also a kind of scatological humor in there, somehow, and a looseness that almost feels live - again, not something I think of with the 80s really, when ultra-tightness seemed paramount. MAW's silky smooth soulful house on the other hand, much as I love it, feels doggedly regressive to me - a pleasurable loop but a closed one where no new information can get in.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tracer, I will give the Fischerspooner record another once over, but you have to admit that some of the tracks from the Felix record (which I listen to quite a bit by the way) sound exactly like Erasure. Also, Jeff W, my sentence isn't that bad is it? The retro- technology/instrumentation fetish is pretty obvious. I could have been a little harsher and just said that they're taking the Les Rythmes Digitales approach!

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i.e. wasn't this retro-electro already done about 5 years ago? And that's a real question I have about this whole thing too. It seems like this sound was already in fashion a few years ago. And just to reiterate, I'm not a hater of the music, but I'm very confused about how electroclash is working culturally and historically.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

can we all just say that dmx krew is more fun than any of these people? (i notice he's finally cropping up in mentions of electroclash business)

― gareth, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

b-b-but the DMX Krew song I heard ISN'T like the nu electro clash because it IS like the Human League and Depeche Mode. Is 17 Ways to break my heart different to all DMX Krew's other stuff?

― Ronan, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And Tracer is on the money, nu-electro owes more to techno than anything else. Go and watch Dave Clarke do an electro/techno set and see how the two go completely hand in hand. I agree some of the Felix tracks sound like Erasure, but it's not that simple, they still have a quality all of their own aswell. In fact the Felix album is interesting because it's very very different to the rest of the scene. It's pretty hard to classify it as anything, it's a sort of techno soul in places. Also Miss Kittin's vocals on the Felix album seem more thought out and detailed than on other albums where you feel she's just got off the plane and written some lyrics on the inside of a cigarette packet. Of course thinking this does nothing but add to the image she projects of her life, she's still crying and listening to the Royksopp remix of "What Does It Feel Like" in the toilets though, you know it. Perhaps.

― Ronan, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

techno soul in places

ronan, have you heard i know electikboy, the felix album before kittenz and thee glitz ('99 i think)? was released under the name maddkatt courtship, and is very much what you describe above, particularly when either tyrone palmer or harrison crump do the vocals.

dmx krew are more electro pop, but seems to be attached to the electroclash scene, albeit peripherally - try fresssshhhhhh!!! or we are dmx. the track on american gigolo isn't particularly representative, and is pretty understated to say the least.

― gareth, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've only heard the track on "This is not the 80s" which I did love despite my saying it's not quite the scene. Is Enter Lite/Exit Nite on that Maddkatt Courtship album? The one that 5ive ripped off? Jon Carter always plays it, I really like it. I'll look into getting that album, I thought Kittenz and Thee Glitz was album of the year last year in the end. It did more for me than Discovery, possibly what was a retroish feel to others sounded totally new and exciting to me.

― Ronan, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

um, i thought that was My Life Muzik?

― gareth, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've only heard DMX Krew in the context of a DJ set he (they?) played in the lobby of the Tribeca Grand Hotel and it was good though marred by terrible speakers and incredibly overpriced drinks (this is before I made my bartender connection there, natch). His records sounded like Hacker and I.F. and some of the darker Ladomat stuff I've heard. Good fun and very nasty.

I've been thinking more about what Spencer says and I don't really have an answer. It IS incontestable that a lot of this music appeals to the past, even if it's not bound to it?

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it Gareth? That's weird because it's listed as Enter Lite/Exit Nite, but it does have that 5ive bit in it too. Is it some kind of mix of the two perhaps? It goes "listen to the sounds in your ear etc" and then that bass part clicks in and it's like "I can see. The Lite."

― Ronan, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It IS incontestable that a lot of this music appeals to the past, even if it's not bound to it?
Well, a lot of the musicians involved call themselves "retro- futurists". Heh, I see Tracer's just started another thread asking whether 'retro' can ever be 'progressive'. So perhaps I'll save detailed arguments for that thread. But short answer is yes. (And Stereolab were/are not anachronistic, regressive or lo-fi either).

― Jeff W, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Listening to The New Preskriptions of Dr. Lektroluv at this very moment (in Belgium, it's officially "electroklash" with a 'k' now). "Planet Rock" sticks out like a sore thumb. The Jimi Tenor and Andreas Dorau tracks work a treat in this context however.

― Jeff W, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i love Jimi Tenor. he wears his sunglasses dans la crepuscule

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jeff W, I'm sticking with the statement re: Stereolab, but I hope you understand that I'm not using those terms in a derogatory way (and they're certainly not whatever the sum of those terms might be). I love Stereolab!

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll Fly With you by Gigi D'Agastino and It's A Fine Day by Opus III still beat anything electroclash has ever produced.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

in what, 500m hurdles?

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In being electroclash.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i suppose the biggest question is "does electroclash involve ironic mullets?"

― fields of salmon, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling, is Ill Fly With You the one were the chick goes "i still believe in your heart tell me..."?

That was a absolutely huge hit in my city

― Chupa-Cabras, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Daft Punk's "Digital Love" involves ironic mullets.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Is it Gareth? That's weird because it's listed as Enter Lite/Exit Nite, but it does have that 5ive bit in it too. Is it some kind of mix of the two perhaps?"

Yeah, it's an a capella of "My Life Muzik" laid over "Enter Lite/Exit Nite". Works bloody well, too.

"Well, a lot of the musicians involved call themselves "retro- futurists". Heh, I see Tracer's just started another thread asking whether 'retro' can ever be 'progressive'. So perhaps I'll save detailed arguments for that thread. But short answer is yes."

For a good electroclashy-example of this try Biftek's (oddly prescient) album from a couple of years ago, "2020", which is sort of an electroclash/microhouse/sixties-futurism fusion - ie. steeped in retro influences from two different periods which offered vivid ideas of "the future", but twisting them with a contemporary evocation of the future as well.

― Tim, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...

Electroclash CD free with new Muzik magazine
-- DJ Martian ([email protected]), July 09, 2002.

This is really good. Still can't get enough of this stuff. Wish I knew why.

― Jeff W, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

> Nostalgia? ;-)

― nathalie, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is interesting, though, to think about when the first wave hit around 98 - when UK music press first cottoned on to Aux 88, DJ Assault, Drexciya, Dijital et al, why didn't it blow up then?

Is it that people were too busy with big beat and speed garage to take any notice? A lot of the same claims were made for big beat as for electroclash (return to song-based structure etc.) and the initial UK big beat audience was quite similar demographically to the current electroclash fanbase...

― Jacob, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Obv though that sound didn't focus on songs, but on updating actual Afrika Bambataa-style electro for techno/idm fans - all the Autechre connections etc.

The electroclash sound is clearly influenced by both first-wave electro and neo-electro, but also industrial, synth-pop and house (the primacy of stomping kickdrums), with the IDM links way de- emphasised.

― Tim, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to Sleaze last night, an electroclash monthly night that's just started in D.C. There's really not much to get. It's new-wave- inspired dance music, with raw synth sounds and hard beats influenced by the 80's industrial acts that originally employed them. Clubbers are always looking for new sounds, and this trend's fun, energetic and not hard at all to dance to. Not much to 'get' unless your post is just, ummm .... hmmm ....huh, an excuse to be sassy.

― Dare, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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