― Nathan Murff, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
The song's about how a relationship breaks down after the woman aborts a child the man really wants. The clues are in the song: " walk down to buy her flowers/And sell some gifts that I got", "They call her name at 7:30". He knows that they can never really be close again, because of the day's incidents.
Incidentally, Ben hates being asked what this songs about. He once said it was about "taking your dog to the vet".
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― t23, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I think it's pretty clear that the "she" in the song is Ben's girlfriend. I don't think you can abort a baby by the time it's well-developed enough to tell its sex.
As for the "son, it's time to tell the truth", I think that the parents (hers or Ben's, we don't know) can sense that something's wrong and can see it on the girl - "it showed that she was not fine". They encourage Ben and the girl to spill the beans. I don't believe he had told his own parents previously; in fact, I think he has been lying to everyone... "tired of lying".
Gifts that I got? It's the "DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS", Dom. He buys her flowers to make her feel better, but SELLS the gifts that he's been given for Christmas. Perhaps he needs to sell some stuff to pay for the abortion.
"She's alone, I'm alone. Now I know it." This is what he KNOWS, the central irony of the song - having "found someone", and cemented that relationship with sex, he's now more alone than he's ever been.... and so, presumably, is the girl, with her own loneliness caused of having an abortion.
― tt, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― silentghost, Friday, 25 April 2003 06:16 (twenty-three years ago)
I've always assumed basically what tomtierney says, two posts above. Definitely, "sell some gifts that I got" is a bitter, ironic statement about the state of his life. I think he intentionally says it casually... it's what he does every year, he needs the money. This year, either to pay for her gifts or the abortion. But yes, I definitely think the gifts are what he got for Christmas. And that he bought her flowers to try and ease her mind a little over the abortion- kind of a sad gesture. I don't know.. I get this image of him going and doing it because he wants to do whatever he can, but feeling totally defeated, knowing that they won't make a difference and that they aren't going to be together much longer.
I don't see anything that indicates he wants the kid... or that he doesn't. I guess I've always just assumed that it was a mutual thing; that they both wanted it but knew it couldn't work out.
Son it's time to tell the truth.. "and she broke down, and i broke down".. I don't think this is breaking down and crying, I think it's breaking down and telling the truth.
One thing I will say for sure, I don't think it's EVER clear in any song just what the meaning is. We will never know what everything means... even when it seems obvious for all we know it could be based on some personal joke, or something.
Ok.. I feel kind of like an ass for analyzing such a personal song like it's an article in a scientific journal.. but whatever that's my 2 cents.
― drew w., Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)
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― bashi simons (bashi), Friday, 8 September 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)
I mean, song suxor. "Battle of Who Could Care Less" much better. "Boxing" much better and more poignant.
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 8 September 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)
it's about time we had a bit more ben folds discussion on ilm as they're hugely underrated (even in my mind) and i used to have the first record then sold it stupidly.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 8 September 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)
― the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)
1. "Underground"2. "Sports and Wine"3. "Army"4. "Kate"5. whatever that one was called about that guy Steve leaving town
― the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)
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― a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Friday, 8 September 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)
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― a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Friday, 8 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)