The Young Ones: Episode Five

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The party-popping cover of 'Subterranean Homesick Blues', by (amongst others) Glen Tilbrook, Stewart Copeland, Rowland Rivron, Simon Brint and Jools Holland. So much talent. Any good?

Shhh Hush, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil: I hope Mike comes back soon with the cure (sniff) Rik: No Neil, it's Echo & The Bunnymen this week

Zanny G, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, no - I don't think the cover was as good as it should have been

the pinefox, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember this one more in terms of the visuals than the music, but I do also remember that this was one of my less-favourite musical guest spots on the Young Ones...important to remember that I was about 14 or so when I was actually watching them for the first time, and I was certainly at the point where something like the Damned's "Video Nasty" would make more of an impression than a supergroup of (to a North American) relatively obscure musicians covering Dylan. I'm sure I'd like it if I saw it again today, though. Resolved, though: The musical segments on Young Ones (maybe excepting Alexei Sayle's "Dr. Marten's Boots", performed as Radical Posture) were almost uniformly GRATE.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What's the lesson here? Too many cooks?

Shhh Hush, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Amazulu!" "Really? I'm a Norwegian!"

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oi Wots wrong with Radical Posture's Dr Marten's Boots. I lvoed that when I was a kid, I stuck a tape deck in front of the TV and replayed it endlessly. Any idea if it was ever released?

The Dylan thing was fine but nothing significant.

Winkelmann, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What's wrong with it? God, you'd think "Devil Woman" had never been written!

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil: I hope Mike comes back soon with the cure (sniff) Rik: No Neil, it's Echo & The Bunnymen this week

No, Madness -- though that episode did have Rik writing to "the lead singer of Echo and the Bunnymen" since he couldn't write to his MP, being an anarchist.

It's funny that Sean mentions the deal about the Damned doing "Nasty," because that was in fact my introduction to the group and, via my purchase of The Light At the End of the Tunnel, punk rock in general (I'm not counting my hearing the Clash circa 1982 because "Rock the Casbah" sucked then and sucks now). I've never seen the Dylan supergroup cover, though -- for rights reasons it didn't surface on the videotape versions I've got, though maybe the DVD will take care of it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Young Ones DVD *drools*

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yus. It's about out in the UK, dunno about US release.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

DON'T JUST HINT, MAN, send SOLID EVIDENCE! I've been waiting for Young Ones DVDs for a long time now! (I'm also hoping they'll rectify the chopping-off-the-endings of the episodes problem that the VHS tapes had, trying to run 3 episodes together without end credits (which fucking RUINED Oil, really). Link? Please?

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The UK Version is out 18th August, according to Amazon.co.uk

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well GOD DAMN! I was sure that I'd looked for this on amazon.com just two weeks ago and saw nothing....yayyyyy!

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay, I get to sell off my videotape copies (and free up some room on the shelves).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

celtic frost did it better

bob snoom, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you have a dvd player that plays dvds from the UK, Ned? If so, what kind do you have?

Nicole, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have an Apex that can play non-Region 1 DVDs, but only after some modifications I haven't done yet. However, I'm planning on purchasing a new player via HK Flix, precisely because they act as 'play anything' players straight out of the box, which makes sense given the site's focus on non-Region 1 sales. The Malata in particular looks promising, and cheap!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheap for you, maybe. ;-)

But thanks for the tip. Maybe once I am finished with school I can splurge on something like that.

Nicole, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hope the episodes on this DVD will be the original 35 minute epsiodes (well, 33 mins to be exact) and not the 30 min botched edits, which features such delights as the cyclops pirate radio bit in "Time" being almost totally cut out.

Christopher Lyons, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheap for you, maybe. ;-)

D'oh! ;-)

But thanks for the tip. Maybe once I am finished with school I can splurge on something like that.

It would be no less than you deserve as a reward for dealing with The Endless Slog of Doom.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Amazulu!" "Really? I'm a Norwegian!"

Wasn't this "I'm a Glaswegian?" Spoken by Viv's hamster, SPG, in a thick Scottish brogue?

nickn, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Could well be...it's been so long since I've seen it I could be misremembering or remembering a mis-hearing. Maybe I'll go watch me ol' videotape now.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Glaswegian, yup. Special Patrol Group gave Footlights University's mascot a Glasgow kiss in the University Challenge episode.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yup. My tape is dubbed several generations deep, so the audio is so bad that "Norwegian" and "Glaswegian" may as well have been the same thing. And the video quality is so awful I'll be glad to get the DVDs so I can see what was actually happening in these episodes!

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ps: I think Special Patrol Group is a stupid name for a hamster!

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alright then! Hello Cliff Richard!

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BASTARD!

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...

"No, operator, Qaddafi."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crop rotation was considerably more widespread after John.

June Hobbs, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In the 14th Century.

June Hobbs, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Get down to the groove! We dance all day in this house!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd never realised that The Young Ones had reached the States.

Ned is officially ILM's Young Ones Uber-Spod! Well done Ned.

"It was not me, it was the other three..."

Zanny Gognet, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Swotting away for teacher like a total SPAZMO?!?"

The show hit the States thanks to MTV of all things -- they picked it up in the late eighties and started screening all twelve shows (they were on a Brit comedy kick; they also broadcast all the Monty Python episodes regularly -- and to their credit, without commercial breaks). So that's how I got the bug. ;-) When all the episodes came out on tape a while back, I just had to get them, by default...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Get down to the groove! We dance all day in this house!"

Yes - and what was it that then got put on the record player ? Wasn't it something from the Human League's 'Dare' ?
Mind you, I recall Rik's dancing to it being better than that of the HL Gurls..

Ray M, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, that was the episode where he woke up next to Jennifer Saunders as the blonde mass murderer -- he was trying to mime exactly what he thought he had done with her the night before, and caught in a lewd gesture made said comment and turned on the radio...only to get a Gregorian chant. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you like Raw Sex, Ned? Sorry if that seems an impertinent question - it's just I was impressed with your Jennifer Saunders reference, and wondered what you thought of the pseudo variety combo, Raw Sex: Rowland Rivron and Simon Brint - good chums of Rik Mayall's.

Sean Kids In The Hall, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Raw Sex were great. "French and Sauuuuunders..." But their prime moment was the Pet Shop Boys parody they did for the F/S music parody show bit or whatever it was from the late eighties. They couldn't have nailed the "Rent"-era version of the band more perfectly, down to the bored looks and fancy dress/street kid dichotomy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And what did you think of 'The Church Of Ned Raggett (25 Different People)' mp3 - assuming you've got around to downloading it from the Electromancer website? Rogan's playing this track, and others, during his late August residency at The Poetry Cafe.

Sean Kids In The Hall, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, that was the episode where he woke up next to Jennifer Saunders as the blonde mass murderer --

Blast this ageing memory! I have this horrible feeling that I'm going to spend a lot of time on ILM being corrected by you Ned . . .

Ray M, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The party episode... rik says "Ok, pop music, let's go! Does anyone like the Human League?" and proceeds to play a brief snatch of the Unlimited Orchestra version of "Things That Dreams Are Made Of" before the officer comes in and smashes the record player...

"Get Down And Groove..." was from "Time" as mentioned above. "Hey Vyv, you dancing?" "You asking?" "I'm asking!" "Well, pi$$ off!"

The Freelance Hairdresser, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My favorite line of the whole series remains...

"Listen, man, sleep gives you cancer, EVERYONE knows that!"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what did you think of 'The Church Of Ned Raggett (25 Different People)' mp3

Actually, wait, I missed this. So I must hear it...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I sent the mp3 to Momus and he said he liked it ... But it was the eve of his American Patchwork tour and he was probably nervous -- so he may have had Karma in mind. Anyone else who wants to check out my tender tribute to Ned Raggett can find the zip file at the following address: www.electromancer.com/Artists/RoganWhitenails/ And my new book is available now, as well - 'Failure Crawled up my Leg 2002'; an updated version of the poem is in there.

Rogan Whitenails, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is a genuine opportunity (at www.madness.co.uk/cupboard) to ask Chris from Madness any question at all! Chris answered this one about The Young Ones. He reads all the question put to him.. So come up with bleedin' good ones.

Question: Hello from the United States. My friends and I are huge TYO fans, and we've been working on collecting information about the musical acts that appeared on it for a fan WWW site. (Accuracy and completeness is the ultimate point here, so we're going to great lengths to dig up information.) Madness had the distinction of being the only double appearance, so they're of particular interest.

I'm sure the guys are often busy, but we would love to hear comments from them about their appearance on TYO. Other acts have been quite helpful, offering juicy little tidbits about their involvement with the show, and we're hoping the guys could follow suit. Some points we especially would love comment on include Suggs' line to Rick ("You hum it, I'll smash your face in") which appears to be the only line spoken by any musical act, and the fight scene during "Our House". Of course, any information they would care to provide would be most appreciated. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. C. Lance Norman Chris' Answer: This programme was going to be called "House of Fun". When it was changed to the "Young Ones" we were asked to record a version of the "Young Ones" Which we didn't. Because we couldn't be arsed. Anyhow,the writers Richard Curtis and Ben Elton really liked us. We were actually going to do a Madness TV show which they had written. There were some great gags in the pilots which I was glad to see recycled in the later work of the two authors. We made two ten minute pilots but couldn't get the backing (as an incidental aside, we were rehearsing some new songs at about this time and were all fired up at the possibility of becoming TV stars when Mike made the decision that broke a thousand young girls hearts and decided to tell us that he couldn't commit himself to doing a TV series or in fact, the band anymore). The line "you hum it, I'll smash your face in " was originally planned for the two budding thespians in the band the most aggressive pair, that is to say, Lee or Chas, who both had a "hard" image. However, after a day of them walking around trying the line out in various vocal styles, wigs costumes etc. I suggested that Suggs should say it. Because you wouldn't really expect him to. I think we got it there don't you?

Nutty, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Vegetable rights and peace.

Prude, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil, Neil Orange peal, when will I see you again.

Hemal, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
PING. Did anyone else get the DVD set yet? I've been watching it and I'm pretty happy with it...good video (have we got a video?), good sound, and they didn't chop off the end credits. Plus I finally got to see an episode of Bottom (didn't like it quite so much) and Filthy Rich and Catflap (ditto). Only real question I have is what's the deal with Christopher Ryan? Everyone else has a pretty extensive bio and other appearances listings in the credits on the third DVD, but Ryan's looks like it was just thrown together in a minute or so, and he doesn't appear in any of the interview footage. Someone told me that he was dead, but all evidence points to that being an urban legend. Anyone got the goods? Was there a falling out?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 23 September 2002 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Christopher Ryan - the only trained 'Actourr' in the cast - has had a reasonably consistant profile in Britain since the Young Ones. He played one of the menacing East End Driscoll Brothers in Only Fools and horses and has appeared in Absolutely Fabuluous and One Foot in the Grave. He was apparently an inspired last minute replacement for the 'Comic Strip Presents' founder and pinoneering alternative comedian, Peter Richardson. Richardson was set to play Mike the Cool person, but pulled out after a bust up with Paul Jackson, the show's producer.
Ryan has recently been working with Windsor Davies (Sgt. Major in 'It Ain't Half Hot Mum') on a new project, written by Jimmy Mulville (Who Dares Wins, That's Love etc.)

Kizzy, Monday, 23 September 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, oh, just discovered something else! In the episode Bomb, I didn't actually realize that Vyvian won the car! For some reason the episode that I had on tape was hacked to bits by the censors...okay, I know the reason. I realize that section with the stupid policeman trying to hassle a black man but not realizing he wasn't black would probably qualify as very offensive to pretty much everyone who didn't know Ben Elton's sense of humour. Was that bit actually included on the videotapes from the 90s, or were they hacked up too? Has anyone else noticed anything else like that that was missing before and now glaringly apparent in this new version?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 29 September 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Was that bit actually included on the videotapes from the 90s, or were they hacked up too?

No, it was included. I can see how missing that would make the logic of the episode fall apart a bit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 September 2002 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

My question is: is that Tilbrooke/Copeland musical bit in the DVD set? Cuz, it was edited out of the tapes for rights reasons, if I remember correctly.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 30 September 2002 02:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Still appears to be gone.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 30 September 2002 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)

i listen to records again and again and watch films and cult tv again and again and read again .. but never comedy, where twice is often enough (you can rotate fawlty towers every three years i suppose)

i once saw american python fans recreating the parrot sketch perfectly on a documentary about the group -- a moment of documentary i would not have been surprised to see as a gag on python

young ones has drama and depth but it still feels like a sub carl barks comic, courtesy of cliff richard

having had re-runs and friends' recorded copies pop up here and there over the years, the idea of buying a dvd of the young ones seems a truly pythonesque use of money (as does impatiently enduring ben elton's music hall stand up comedy)

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 30 September 2002 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Incidentally, 'Ken Bishop's Nice Twelve' was the name of the band in the "Cash" episode - Christened by Rik Mayall.

Shhh Hush, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I found out on Saturday that some of my friends live in the house used for exterior shots in Series 1 (and therefore the house Ken Bishop's Nice Twelve mimed outside). I knew they lived near it, but not actually in it.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that would be fun. So I'd think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

After the Young Ones ended I desperately wanted them to make "Nosin' Around" as a spinoff! Where's there a petition? I will sign it!

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a perk of living in Bristol. Most of the Young Ones locations are very close to my house - the army careers office from 'Cash' is an RSPCA charity shop about 100yds from home, as is the launderette from 'Bambi'. I've also swum in the swimming baths that forms the exterior shot of the police station in 'Cash' and the bank in 'Summer Holiday' (same building) and had a pint (but no Roast Ox flavour crisps) in the Kebab & Calculator.

I'm sure plenty of other people have similarly disinteresting stories about location shoots, and that some people actually have interesting ones.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
No music, my braces! What about Rip Rig and Panic?

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

PING. Did anyone else get the DVD set yet?

i got it when it came out. watched it a few times, enjoyed it greatly, had my fill of it, and sold it on amazon for $40.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)


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