Should Mark Chapman ever be released?

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― Owen, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:56 (twenty-three years ago)

yes. why do you ask? has he got down's syndrome?

― sf, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)

If he's fully recovered, of course he should.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh I thought this thread would be about the next Trail Of Dead single. Which should not be released of course.

― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:22 (twenty-three years ago)

If he's eligible for parole and found to be stable, yes. He shouldn't stay in jail just because of who he killed.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)

yea, he should be given a second chance.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck it, he should be hung drawn and quartered 4 being a hippy CUNT.

― sf, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Depends on the quality of his demos.

― Emmanuel Goldstein, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

'If he's eligible for parole and found to be stable, yes. He shouldn't stay in jail just because of who he killed'.
That's settled, then.
Polemically, I can think of a few irrational arguments - influenced by a giddy passion for Lennon's music - why Mark Chapman should never be released; and I understand how Yoko Ono would feel vunerable. But I do agree with Dave225, though I think Chapman's release should be, what they call in legal circles, a spaghettification-release. His release should appear to us like he's entering a cosmic black hole, being stretched by imponderable tidal forces. If he broke in two, too bad: Double fantasy.

― Owen, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I just don't think he deserves to be treated or evaluated differently from any other murderer... I don't know enough about the process to say whether he should be released - i.e. is he/will he ever be reabilitated? ... But he shouldn't remain in jail just to make Lennon's fans feel better.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)

No - true, absolutely. I just wanted to express my emotional response, but the old noodle will help me get over it, and hopefully the right decisons will be made. For me, personally, it's a spaghetti (emotional) and noodle (intellect) conflict. That's what I wanted to say, really.

― Owen, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

a second chance at what, julio? ;-)

― pulpo, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

shooting mccartney perhaps?

― Emmanuel Goldstein, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah before he does another program with jools holland again.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

"I understand how Yoko Ono would feel vunerable"

Not as vulnerable as Chapman himself I suspect? I mean think of the CELEBRITY available to the discerning psychopath here!

(Reverse Catch 22: Chapman should only be released into the outside world if he's sane; wanting to be released into the outside world = conclusive proof that he's not sane.)

― ArfArf, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Let Charles Manson out first, dagnabbit!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Yea, Chapman will totally get his ass kicked by some drunk, bare minimum.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder where killing Lennon puts him in the prison hierarchy?

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

he gets first dibs on picking up the soap

― df, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 09:15 (twenty-three years ago)

hopefully he's a "really big fan" of moby, now

― bob snoom, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 09:26 (twenty-three years ago)

some sort of pi island arrangement for mr chapman i think -- ok t(g)odd rundgren presumably moved to hawaii in part to avoid some people, having been involved in semi-related incident(s)

the footage i saw about chapman claimed he'd been trying anything and uh, everything since the uh, late sixties, (uh, casual[y) -- the people who made that documentary may have had their own agenda, maybe they go on peace marches in central park, i don't know -- anyone see it ?

― george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 10 October 2002 00:58 (twenty-three years ago)

this is all irrelevant. Mark Chapman has been denied bail. what is everyone's problem? it angers me, that's all. Ah...LEAVE it. Ah..don't you even dare.

― Kate, Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems obvious that he will never be released because they know he would assasinated by the first crazy fan to get within 100 yards. To be honest, I can't believe that some guy in prison hasn't already gotten him. I imagine there's a lot of locked up Beatle fans.

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

PS - What do you call a Beatle fan locked up in Alcatraz?

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Michel Foucault

― Anil, Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

nope

― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I say let put him in a room with Michael Abram (the freakazoid who tried to stab George Harrison) and let them battle it out to the death.

― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Friday, 11 October 2002 02:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I know you call a Gorillaz fan escaping from Alcatraz "Clint Eastwood."

It should be a crazed J.D. Salinger fan that assassinates Chapman.

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 11 October 2002 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Or even better: a Mark David Chapman fan should ask HIM for an autograph.

― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Friday, 11 October 2002 02:47 (twenty-three years ago)

And the answer is...

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Why isn't this on ILE? Were we waiting for someone to say "Alternatively, Lennon, Classic or Dud?"

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

''I say let put him in a room with Michael Abram (the freakazoid who tried to stab George Harrison) and let them battle it out to the death.''

as long as its not on pay TV I'm all for it!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Did Michael Abram get released, or did I dream that?

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

PS - What do you call a Beatle fan locked up in Alcatraz?

A Rockist

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

"Free the prisoners, jail the judges
Free all prisoners everywhere
All they want is truth and justice
All they need is love and care

Attica State, Attica State,
we're all mates with Attica State..."

And isn't it ironic, doncha think...

― Joe (Joe), Friday, 11 October 2002 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

If he is released, he will be killed anyway, as there have been numerous threats on his life.

― BLeh, Sunday, 28 May 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/lennons-killer-in-rejected-parole-bid-recalled-that-fateful-day/?ref=nyregion

― buzza, Friday, 17 September 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

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