What makes a sex scene good for you? Is nudity better than the strategic placing of camera angles and bed sheets?
I though the sex scene in Cold Mountain was kind of beautiful and genuinely erotic. (in a over-heated capital R romantic kind of way)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)
I also like the sex scene in Pola X, the one with the guy and his half-sister.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm kidding, of course (or AM I?....) :)
I think the greatest failures I can think of for sex scenes come from larry clark films ("kids", "bully", "ken park")--in their desperate attempts for authenticity and shock value, they end up coming off as ridiculous.
And I don't agree with the "once the clothes come off, it's a documentary" line. I can see where the concept comes from, but it's kind of a shallow, disrespecting view of both actors and directors (except for that perv bertolucci!)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
there is an instrinsic interest in seeing actual people, and not characters, naked.
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)
One of the worst I can think of -- Irons and Binoche in Damage. Yikes!
― BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)
well, that's because you're a pervert :)
but really, this brings up the important question of the "star system" in general. I know that I've never been so pulled out of film by a performance that I create a total dichotomy between character and celebrity. How many times have you said "remember that scene in the matrix when keanu reeves...?"
I think nudity might demolish the line between celeb/role a little bit more strongly, simply because we're such puritans in the U.S. If we were Bushmen & all the women in our tribe walked around topless 24/7, then it wouldn't be so surprising to see them in a nude role.
The nudity is only shocking because our culture allows it to be shocking. Other taboos work the same way--straight celebs doing a fully clothed on-screen gay kiss? same reaction--"whoa, patrick swayze is kissing a dude!"
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
That works even if she's not a star. Maria Schnieder didn't do a lot of work in English after Last Tango in Paris. She spent enough time naked in that movie, she became known as essentially a porn star.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
Last Tango is a tough case, because it's a serious film, but it's also seriously erotic. And her performace is wonderful, but she's playing a willing sex toy. I understand the reluctance to have her play Ophelia after that. Not that that makes it right.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Hamlet: Get thee to a creamery!
― BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
That aside there are moments in films where you justifiably go, "Holy shit that's (such and such) naked" and I think that's more sexy than any hardcore movie (Meg Ryan getting it off in "In the Cut", Ashley Judd in "Double Jeopardy", Uma Thurman in "Mad Dog and Glory" et al).
― C-Man (C-Man), Thursday, 29 January 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)
What about a thread of directors who have the most interesting sex scenes? Or we could just discuss it here.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Destroy: The Tony Scott Blue Sex Scene (TM)
― ModJ (ModJ), Saturday, 31 January 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 31 January 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)
But I don't want to destroy them because they're not erotic, I want to destroy them because they're disturbing in ways I didn't know possible.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)
the sex scenes in desperate living are GREAT. but in that not erotic at all and just fucking weird and amazing at the same time way, of course.
― joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Monday, 10 January 2005 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)
"MOVE YOUR HANDS!"
― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 10 January 2005 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)