Coffee and Cigarettes

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I don't know if anyone's posted on this film yet (I haven't been keeping up with ILF as much lately, since my company blocked access to it on the work servers), but I would like to know if anyone's seen it & care to post a review.

I love Jim Jarmusch, but looking at the "who's-who" list of cameos makes me fearful that he's turning into another "indie-director-with-a-bit-of-fame-who-puts-every-celebrity-and-rock-star-he-knows-into-his-film" type. I'm thinking of stuff like "Smoke" or recent Woody Allen.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 6 June 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It was awful (and that seems to be the ILE consensus) - forced, awkward, almost every vignette went on too long, some of the appearances screamed of hipsterism for hipsterisms sake (as you said - 'look, I can get the RZA and GZA with Bill Murray!' and 'look, it's the White Stripes!").

Cate Blanchette v. Cate Blanchette was good, Steve Coogan v. Albert Molina and the last one (with Taylor Mead and someone else from the NYC experimental film/art scene) were OK, the rest were a waste.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 6 June 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i would venture to say that steve coogan v. albert molina was GREAT, and the most developed by far. the last one was also good. tom waits and iggy pop was good (ok, the first few lines of dialogue were good and then it got boring). cate blanchette was okay. the rest were pretty poor.

i didn't like "blue in the face" at all, but from what i remember of it, jarmusch's sketch (about smoking, it being his last cigarette) was much more funny and entertaining than any of these.

in the end, i wasn't sorry i went to see it, or even that i paid $8 to go see it. i think if jarmusch had tried to tether all of the sketches to a theme (keep: coogan/molina, blanchette, waits/pop and make the whole thing about being a celebrity/being a "nobody") it could have been much more interesting. the problem was that most of it felt too "hip" and ultimately vacuous.

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Sunday, 6 June 2004 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks guys; unfortunately you confirmed my worst fears for this film....

I'm not getting the "versus" thing--what's that all about?

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 6 June 2004 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

What?! I've seen the Buscemi/Lee/Lee, Benigni/Wright and Pop/Waits segments on bootleg over the years and they're low-key, funny and charming. Maybe they just work better as isolated shorts, because individually I've really enjoyed what I've seen of them.

PVC (peeveecee), Monday, 7 June 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I just used vs. as shorthand for it being two actors going back and forth. It is accurate for a few of them (which become about positioning).

Molina's tone threw me, it would have been better if he'd dialed it back a step.
Iggy/Waits had a ton of potential, it was just squandered. Same with RZA/GZA/Murray - if they'd made more of Murray's situation (trying to avoid spoilers) it could have been great.

Benigni/Wright, Buscemi/Lee/Lee and the White Stripes were far and away the worst.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 7 June 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
I really enjoyed this film. For the first half of it I wasn't sold on it. Only at the very end did I truly feel like I got it. This could have just been a compilation of silly/stupid/strange sketches/improvs, but in the end it became a full movie where each scene flowed and grew into the next. Definitely a very strange way to make a movie, but very well executed in my opinion. Too bad people took it so seriously. I think it's supposed to be a fun, strange (and beautiful) movie. I was shocked not to find John Lurie in it though.

soplerfo, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

this was terrible

what a delightfully quirky new voice! (bug), Sunday, 5 July 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

I really liked 20% of it, didn't care for the rest.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 6 July 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

I've actually heard that this movie is still a work in progress, and that Jarmusch plans on adding more scenes to it in years to come. That said, it's definitely worlds away from Limits of Control, and it's not easy to tell where Jarmusch is going at any point in time.

I thought Coffee and Cigarettes had just as many strong scenes as weak ones. The Iggy/Tom conversation is more awkward than it should be, and while their acting is very sincere and character-oriented, you find yourself cringing in that same queezey sense that you get when you watch anything with Ben Stiller in it.

My favorite had to be the Lee/Lee/Buscemi. Clearly the series is about juxtaposition, and in this particular scene there's sort of an underlying physical comedy that I really enjoyed (all actors present have interesting physical features, to say the least).

...excited to see what comes next.

JGerbs38, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

it has a weird fixation on fame (not just famous cameos, but actually being about fame) but this is still great. there isn't much to the attempts to expand it beyond just being collected shorts, all tenuously linked, and the parallelism of the whole acoustical chamber thing is kind of an add-on. but they're great. champagne, cousins?, somewhere in memphis particularly.

i think the work on progress thing is more that he hopes to continue making the shorts, as they've been made in batches; i think as a collection the first film's kinda finished. he made a nice short for the ten minutes older films, too.

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Thursday, 16 July 2009 22:59 (sixteen years ago)


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