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Billy didn't even make his annual "fuckin' A's" trade and they're a shoo-in for the division... right? or can Anaheim KO them? Let's start with a Beane profile...


Beane and the Athletics Are Still Playing by the Book
By LEE JENKINS


OAKLAND, Calif., Sept. 7 - Baseball's celebrity general manager wears shorts and sandals to the office, skips road trips and insists that he cannot get through the book that was written about him.

Billy Beane acts as if building a perennial division champion is like taking a walk through Sausalito. He rattles off a list of reasons he has the greatest job in the game, neglecting to mention how his team operates with a parsimonious budget and plays in a football-first stadium that has a chain-link corridor for an entrance.

Beane's surfer-dude look and cheerful exterior reflect his Southern California upbringing, but not his analytical nature. Like the Oakland Athletics, the team he pieces together every winter with Popsicle sticks and rubber cement, Beane only looks like a pushover. He is baseball's version of an aw-shucks pool-hall hustler, a guy who makes you believe he does not know the right end of the cue stick, then cleans the table and empties your wallet.

"I guess we just have a sense of calm and confidence here now," Beane said. "When I was playing baseball, I used to look at Kirby Puckett and see how relaxed he was and think, 'It must be nice to know you'll get a hit every time.' I don't think we feel like we'll always be right, but we'll eventually figure it out."

Each season of this new millennium was supposed to signal the death of Beane's New Age baseball philosophy and Oakland's unlikely success story. And, yet, each season has brought more of the same. Two years after Michael Lewis wrote "Moneyball," the best-selling book that chronicled a season with the A's and hailed Beane as a small-market pioneer, the most compelling chapter yet is unfolding in the East Bay.

In the past year, Oakland found itself besieged by Beane discounters who either disagreed with his theories or resented his newfound celebrity. Some baseball pundits, and a few anonymous officials, poked fun at his number-crunching methods and his unwavering faith in select statistics. At the same time, the A's had to endure the latest blow from baseball's economic infrastructure, which cost them their most valuable player, Miguel Tejada; their closer, Keith Foulke; and their catcher, Ramon Hernandez.

Oakland lost three of its most reliable regulars in the winter and has not lost much of anything since. For the third straight season, the A's are leading the American League West and are closing out the summer in signature form. [Oakland lost its fourth straight Wednesday, 8-3 to Boston, but still leads Anaheim in the West by a game and a half.] Over a four-year span, Oakland has the best record in baseball, the best record at home, the best record after the All-Star Game break and the best record in September.

"This season is really a credit to Billy," said Rick Peterson, who was the A's pitching coach for five years until he joined the Mets this season. "I'm not surprised by what they've done because Billy has no fear. He is never afraid to think outside the box. There was a demand for excellence this year, not a wish, not a hope, but a demand. I don't think people realize how difficult it was to build that team with those market dollars."

There is a 300-page book dedicated to the challenge. Though Beane admits he cringes when reading about himself, "Moneyball" has defined his career and changed the art of team building in many small markets, as well as a few large ones. Beane has to be one of the only general managers invited to lecture at the Harvard, Stanford and Southern California business schools.

Predictably enough, "Moneyball" spawned a backlash from some members of baseball's older guard, who wondered why Beane showed such disdain for sacrifice bunts and high-school pitchers. If Beane's feelings were hurt, he will not show the scars. He admits only that he has learned a great deal about the arc of fame, in which those who are made famous are sometimes leveled by the same machine that constructed them.

"Sure, I became the subject of criticism, and there were people who said my ego had run amok," Beane said. "I went through the whole thing. But I didn't really care because those people talking about me didn't even know me. I still say that it was a great experience, a grounding experience, and I wouldn't trade it for anything."

Beane was supposed to learn such lessons in celebrity-making a long time ago. The Mets drafted him in the first round in 1980, the same year they also selected Darryl Strawberry in the first round, but baseball did not come as naturally to Beane as business would. He hit .219 with three home runs in six major league seasons, failing to achieve as a player what he would as an executive.

On the afternoon of most Oakland home games, Beane does not even go down to the field for batting practice, retreating instead to the isolation of his office, where he is more comfortable. He sits alone with his BlackBerry and his television set, showing an early out-of-town game. "Watching the Mets right now," Beane says. "Down, 1-0."

He has earned the right to skip road trips, wear sandals and watch the Mets in the office. The essential reason Beane and the A's became the subject of a book is that they won more baseball games than they had a right to imagine. Even after the critics took their shots, Oakland is still winning, though no one seems surprised by it anymore.

The worst thing anyone can say about the A's is that they have not captured a playoff series since Beane took charge. When he is criticized for putting too much emphasis on walks, home runs and on-base percentage - and not enough on stolen bases and defense - the team's postseason record is always at the crux of the argument.

"I don't think if we'd have bunted more it would have made a difference," said Terry Francona, who was the A's bench coach last season and is the Red Sox' manager this year. "Because of payroll, Oakland is not as deep as other teams, and if their horses get nicked up late in the year, they don't have the backups."

But they do have the pitching, and while everyone else seems to complain of a sore arm at this time of year, the A's are topping out on the radar guns again. Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson and Barry Zito are monitored so closely in April and May that they routinely perform at full strength in August and September. A team with three aces can succeed even if Erubiel Durazo is the leading run producer.

"They have that really solid core - and then they have the ability to change their peripheral players with great success," said Theo Epstein, the Red Sox' general manager, who is among a legion of young executives who count Beane as a mentor. "Billy always seems to be ahead of the curve."

Beane shrugs off praise as easily as he does ridicule. He insists that he does not care about acceptance and is not obsessed with winning a playoff series. He even predicts that the A's will eventually fall into the same trap that befalls any other small-market team. "At some point," Beane said, "we'll go through major rebuilding and we won't win 96 games."

There he goes again, sandbagging and hustling, the master of low expectations setting up his marks for the next season.


Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 September 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

What the hell is wrong w/ Erubiel Durazo being the team's leading run producer!!?!?

Anaheim's starting pitching is way too suspect to truly pose a threat to the A's - the rock of their rotation is Kelvim Escobar, which would be fine if it weren't for the actual point men on the staff (hello Mr. Washburn & Mr. Colon) flippity-flopping between greatness and MattYoungVille. Of course, where the Angels have a great bullpen, Oakland's rotational riches give way to the sort of bullpen that even last year's Red Sox fans wouldn't want. Regardless, I'd rather bank on getting 6 to 7 good innings per game than only 2 to 3.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 10 September 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

When he is criticized for putting too much emphasis on walks, home runs and on-base percentage - and not enough on stolen bases and defense - the team's postseason record is always at the crux of the argument.

Of course, none of those critics mention that Oakland won a playoff game against Boston last year with a suicide squeeze by a catcher in the 12th inning.

I love Oakland. I root for them every year. In Toronto, we have one of Beane's former disciples (J.P. Ricciardi) as GM. After five years of Gord "Jabba" Ash, who couldn't build a winning team any better than I could built a Corvette in my kitchen, it was a welcome change. Injuries screwed up the Jays' season this year, so I can't lay much blame on Ricciardi for that. He's done a great job.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, that and good bullpen pitchers only pitch when their team is in the lead.

plays in a football-first stadium that has a chain-link corridor for an entrance.

just to clarify, that is not the entrance to the stadium but rather the pedestrian bridge from BART (SF commuter subway).

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It still has a Great Escape / Longest Yard feel to it.

The Morgan-Lupica Old Guard has also gotten to bash another member of the Moneyball Vanguard this year, DePodesta in LA. (What? LoDuca isn't burning up Miami yet?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That fence still has a Great Escape / Longest Yard feel to it.

The Morgan-Lupica Old Guard has also gotten to bash another member of the Moneyball Vanguard this year, DePodesta in LA. (What? LoDuca isn't burning up Miami yet?)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
A's bullpen has gotta pitch like they did last night to beat Anaheim this weekend... and get to the LCS. And a starter besides Harden has got to get on track.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Having both Durazo and Chavez on my fantasy team, I can confirm that they have been Swingin' and Missin' of late.

Bats going cold in the middle of a playoff push is never a good thing.

A few weeks ago I was thinking they may be the team to watch in the AL, but I don't feel that way now.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

mark mulder's last six starts: 0-3, 7.71

speaking of los halos, does anyone know exactly what jose guillen did?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Threw a hissy fit when pulled for a pinch runner in the late innings of some game. It involved some grandstanding @ 1B ("Pinch runner? For MOI?"), some choice words for Scoscia, and a little glove tossing against the back wall of the dugout.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, but that doesn't seem like nearly enough to warrant a season-ending suspension...there must be more (though i guess it didn't help that he had a shitty september)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Guillen threw his helmet at Scoscia then threw his batting gloves at another coach.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

*crosses Anaheim off the list of 2005 destinations*

Moises Alou (mattbot), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

haha.

i am thinking of going to OAKLAND tomorrow esp. if Ichiro gets a few hits tonight. It's $2 Wednesdays (+$5 subway fee).

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The stories about the suspension were strongly implying that there have been other, more private incidents involving Guillen this season and that this latest, very public incident was simply the last straw.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dammit, the A's must have a tie going into this weekend. (A Monday playoff would be in Anaheim.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Guillen pulled some similar stunts in Cinci about playing time and I think was fined at one point. Along with being stocked with outfielders, I'm sure his attitude probably helped get him traded by the Reds.

If I was a NY or Boston fan, I'd be pulling for the A's. I think Anaheim could be dangerous in the playoffs.

Still...it is hard to believe the A's collapse. A few weeks back I was thinking they might be the team to watch in the AL.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Eliminated Rangers do their part and beat Angels despite 2 Vlad homers, A's jump ahead of M's on Dye HR...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 September 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

BOB-BY CROS-BY...

BP Odds page has A's as 60/40 favorites to take the division. I gotta think it'll be whoever wins tonight. Macha will have the early hook ready if Mulder looks as bad as he has recently.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Both teams have the starters they want on the hill -

TONIGHT: Colon v. Mulder
SATURDAY: Escobar v. Zito
SUNDAY: Washburn v. Hudson

Well, the A's would IDEALLY want Zito on the hill, maybe, but Harden's obviously been the better pitcher this year. And it's odd (for me) to realize that the best pitcher of the 6 (in recent weeks, perhaps even during the season) has been Kelvim Escobar.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

You are correct, sir. By 2004 VORP (Escobar is 5th in the league):


Kelvim Escobar 54.1
Jarrod Washburn 22.8
Bartolo Colon 17.9

Mark Mulder 40.5
Barry Zito 29.2
Tim Hudson 46.3

But do the Angels really want Colon on the mound? (Harden is 41.8 btw, and Lackey 29.9.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The Athletics cleaned Escobar's clock in their last meeting.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Colon's pitched better in the 2nd half of the season, for sure, but his last few starts (OK, only his 2nd-to-last start, against those pesky Mariners) have had the flavor of his 1st-half crapitude. Here's his gamelog.

Also, that A's start gygax mentions is the only one in his last 5 where he's allowed more than two runs, pitched less than 6 innings, allowed more hits (more BASERUNNERS) than innings pitched. Here's HIS gamelog.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG he won that game? I turned it off because I thought it was over. Oh those Angels.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What, Escobar's Oakland game? He lost that one fair unt square.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops, I get confused by gamelogs that sort date descending vs. ascending.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

enough of the A's, I wanna see Vlad in the playoffs.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 2 October 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay, Angels win.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)


[heh..]

k3rry (dymaxia), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

A's just didn't pitch the last 6 weeks. Beane is gonna move either Mulder or Zito, I'm thinking Zito.

I hope Boston or LA go all the way (Moneyball GMs), or Little Joe's "manufacturing runs" rants will be insufferable.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo boy, a Yankees / Astros series would be the Little Things Showdown to end all LTSes, wouldn't it? Actually, maybe the Angels instead of the Yanks. Vizcaino v. Eckstein! Ausmus v. The Non-Hitting Molina! Roger Clemens at the plate v. sac bunts by the first baseman! (And, y'know, Beltran v. Vlad, if you really care about those sorts of things.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bengie Molina actually was having a decent year at the plate before he got hurt. Of course the Angels just put another Molina brother behind the plate and keep moving.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

>a Yankees / Astros series would be the Little Things Showdown to end all LTSes<

How ya figger, or do you just mean from the Brain Dead Kruks' viewpoint? The Yanks play the essence of SABRball -- take walks and hit homers (didn't they break the CLUB RECORD for HRs from 1961??), they just do it with an infinite budget.

Anyway, I'd pencil Oakland in for 90 wins again next year.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That's why I semi-corrected myself and replace the Yanks w/ the 'Gels (woo new team nickname!) - the Yanks ARE very SABRific, yet they seem to talk the Little Things / Received Wisdom talk (cf. trying to pass off low-OBPer Soriano as a leadoff guy for way too long; giving retread no-hit backup catchers spots on the roster in place of worthier folks that're toiling in Columbus), and there's definitely a bit of cognitive dissonance going on at times (usually when Joe Torre tries to fuck with what should be an easy-to-fill lineup card because of innopportune slumpage & outside pressures). Or maybe it's their critics bemoaning their lack of Little Thingns in what they do offensively, bitching that all the Yankees do is hit home runs and blah blah blah.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

because the yankees win a helluva lot of games, and because they do suffer from a sort of "cognitive dissonance" (that's good! - obvious disparity of thought b/w upper and lower and Highest Power management) they become a great exhibit A for either side of the debate. but i think the shameless small-minded smallballers/republicans have done a much better job of co-opting los yanquis than the honest, liberal saberheads/democrats.

John (jdahlem), Monday, 4 October 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)


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