Rolling STL - HOU 2004 NLCS Thread

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

the redbirds vs. the astronauts

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Cards in 6. Astros need the Cards' starters to shit the bed and/or take the scenic route to 5-6 innings of work to get to the bullpen. They also need Brandon Backe to keep applying the El Duque clear to his pitching arm.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Cards in 5. If the Cards get half the scoring chances the Braves had it could be a pretty boring series.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Cards in 6 if not 5. I think anything else means an automatic World Series title for the AL contender.

(Btw, is Petitte going to be healthy for the NLCS?)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you guys nuts? Houston is really good! Their big four boppers compare can match up to St. Louis's. Does everyone REALLY think the Cards pitching is THAT superior?

Runs scored in Houston's 5 playoff games: 9, 2, 8, 5, 12

I'll take Houston in 7.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

eh, strike that "compare"

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Astros in 7. If they can split the first two in St. Louis, they'll be in an excellent position coming home.

BBT: Pettitte is out, not coming back this year.

― boldbury (boldbury), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sticking to my prediction from the original playoffs thread -- Cards in 6. Houston a) doesn't have home-field advantage, b) their rotation is all messed up with Oswalt and Clemens both pitching on three days rest in games 4 and 5, c) Cards offense is performing just as well as the Astros' right now, d) Garner v LaRussa, based on what we've seen so far in the playoffs, is a managing mismatch.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Cards in 6. Berkman has the edge on Walker, Beltran at the moment is doing better than Edmonds, Pujols and Rolen smoke Bags and Biggio.

Also, the fact is Clemens and Oswalt are gonna be burned out.

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the cards SP is finally going to slip a bit, but i'm also sticking w/ cards in 6.

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

There are plenty of reasons for Cards fans to be nervous. No Carpenter. Rolen hasn't hit at all since coming back. Edmonds has been cold. Clemens owned the Cardinals this year. Lidge means they pretty much have to be tied or winning games by the 8th.

On the plus side, the Cards formula of success most the year has been 1) pitching contains the other team to around 4 runs
2)some combination of Womack/Walker/Rolen/Edmonds/Renteria comes up big. And with all of them being around .300 hitters, the odds are pretty good.
3) Pujols is Pujols.

Cards in 6. And I'm guessing there'll be a couple blow outs on both sides.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Cards in six strikes me as about right.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's gonna be a sweep. Either Houston or St. Louis (I'm leaning STL), but it'll be a sweep.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

pitching matchup for game 1 appears to be pete munro v woody williams.

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Also, the fact is Clemens and Oswalt are gonna be burned out."

Maybe.

Oswalt looked pretty good and his curve definitely had some movement, until the 5th when he gave up those two solo homers. Clemens won a game and pitched well enough to win a second coming off the flu.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that the Braves are out, it's Indifference in a sweep for me. But if I have to pick, I'll say St. Louis in 6.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

What bnw said, except Astros in 6.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

backe is starting for HOU, not munro.

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What is MLB doing putting BOTH games on at 8 tonight, with the debate no less? I want Selig on Rivera's fence.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Which game gets the main Fox nod? Let me take a guess...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It's "what America wants". God forbid Fox should expend some effort in trying to interest folks in baseball players & teams outside of the major markets - CLEARLY it's better for the game to be dependant on the success of Boston & New York than to even entertain thoughts of people getting interested in baseball THE GAME.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

omg remember boston vs new york last year?!?! that was crazy!!!! remember which one won the Series?!?! Neither!

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(just my imitation of the media over the next week)

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ahahaha. so true.

putting the sox-yanks game as the main game in every market outside of st louis/houston is totally dumb, not to mention ignorant of the many cardinals fans who live outside the st louis area and grew up listening to baseball on that giant clear-channel (the spectrum not the company, although who knows it might be pwn3d by them by now) station in st louis. ah, well, what do you expect from fox.

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly Joe Buck himself said last night that Cardinals fans would understand not having their game being the main event tonight; were the strings visible as he said this?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

We need some photos re: the location of McCarver's hand during that statement.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Tim was channelling Barnard Hughes from "Midnight Cowboy" at the time: "Get on your knees before Fox HQ, Joe Buck!!!"

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Slam-a-lamma-ding-DONG!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

In Chicago, it's Astros/Cards on Fox 32, with Yanks/BoSox relegated to FSN.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

George Steinbrenner just wrote a postdated check to Carlos Beltran.

The amount was left blank.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit did Berkman muff that one!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

POO-HOLES!!! 2-2 game.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

How thankful is Houston that they didn't unload Beltran??

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus. x-post. I just switched over to the Yankees/Sox for a second.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a tough night...plus I'm going to devote 90 minutes to the debate downstairs while running upstairs to check on both games. It's nuts!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I know it was mentioned before, but MLB is just LAME for airing both these games at the same time. Think the NFL would let that shit slide?

That said, the worst crime is that I'm stuck at work for the next hour and a half.

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

At least they are broadcasting the other game on cable. I didn't even know that until BBT posted it! And yeah, this would be a good night to go to a sports bar but for the debate.

I'm thinking of listening to the debate on the radio, and leaving the game on TV with the sound down. But we'll see.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

For whatever reason, on DirecTV it shows both FSN and Fox with the Astros/Cards game, but I knew there was no way they wouldn't squeeze the Yankees game on somewhere.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Something to watch here: Brandon Backe for the Astros and his first career start on 3 days rest. It took him 28 pitches to get his first 3 outs. Williams doesn't look so great either, but at least he's pitching on his scheduled spot in the rotation.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Scooter!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, Backe is starting on short rest also? I had no idea. If Backe and Munro are the Game 1 and Game 2 starters regardless, what possible benefit is there to pitching Backe on short rest in Game 1 instead of a rested Munro? "Setting the tone?"

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Well he did strike out STL's #7-8 and got #9 to 1st pitch fly out. He's at 43 pitches after 2. I imagine his pitch count is probably around 70-80.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm back!

Short debate summary: gEorGiE is on happy pills tonight, the moderator was grilling Kerry and serving up softballs for his golf buddy.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Cardinals offense is getting it together at last, and the Astros' pen is shaky.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, if Pujols don't get you, then Rolen might. If Rolen don't get you, Edmonds will.

10-4 Redbirds.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just a matter of time with that lineup.

Qualls is a rookie. Harville might as well be a rookie (

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Berkman makes it interesting with a 2-run blast in the 8th...but really, is the Cards' pen bad enough to blow a 6-run lead?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Lead down to 3! (With 1 out left.)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Izzy saves it. Game 1 to the Cards.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, don't doubt it, suckas

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 188 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Also, did everyone see the "Slam-a-Lam-a Ding Dong" sign?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

those signs are very very wrong.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, you guys should have heard the local sports talk radio guys. They were hoppin' mad at Garner for losing this game. It's so funny how everybody was pretty much looking at game 7 as the game the Astros win because of the pitching matchup and then when they don't win game 6, it's a disaster. First, they were mad because they brought in Miceli instead of Oswalt. Well, if you use Oswalt today, then you blow him for tomorrow. Then they were mad that Garner double-switched and took Berkman out, overlooking the fact that if you don't double switch, then you don't get three innings out of Lidge. Plus, Berkman's spot came up with nobody on and two outs in the 12th, so it's not like they missed out on a great scoring opportunity because the only pinch hitter they had left was Brandon Backe.

It's amazing how two weeks ago everybody was praising Garner and now they complain about every move he makes in the games that they lose. Never mind that the Astros hitters went nine-up, nine-down in the 10th, 11th, and 12th innings today. It's Garners fault they lost because he had already used up all his good relievers and only had Miceli, Gallo and Springer left to use unless he wanted to go ahead and blow out Oswalt.

And I'll say again, that they had the pitching rotation set up to win Game 7. Winning Game 6 would have been a bonus. I'll take a full-rested Clemens against Suppan. I feel good about that matchup. Then one or two innings out of a three-days rested Oswalt and then if needed an inning from Lidge. What does TLR have to back up Suppan? Isringhausen went three innings today and hasn't been very good in the series. Tavarez went two today. Overall, I feel really good about the pitchers the Astros will trot out tomorrow compared to what St. Louis will have available.

Thank you for letting me rant against the idiots I heard on the radio today.

― boldbury (boldbury), Thursday, 21 October 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

After the McKeon that Garner pulled this year he should be damned slightly less often.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully craig biggio will pull a johnny damon tonight.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I am hoping for it to be 10-2 Cardinals by the 4th.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Any more predictions?

I like the Cards. Houston plays fantastic at home, however, their season is over tonight.

Pujols is better than Beltran, better than Ortiz, better than Sheffield... he's getting no attention and that's the way he likes it.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Pujols is getting no attention???

ah, but what's your take on the pitching, dear gygax? I'd be inclined to pick the Cards too, but man, a rested Clemens with Oswalt available...

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

If the Astros can keep the pitchers used to Clemens & Oswalt (&, of course, SuperLidge), they have it in the bag. Suppan has to pitch well (obviously) & long (obviously) because the Cards' bullpen hasn't looked all that snazzy, especially Izzy. I imagine Marquis will be available for extended work, though, which is a plus assuming the available Marquis is the one that pitched for St. Louis from June to September & not the Marquis that the Braves dumped on the Cards in the off-season.

HALF-ASS POOPCHUTES PREDICTION: Suppan will falter in the 5th (BELTRAN AHOY!). Clemens will be solid through 5 but will scuffle in the 6th. Oswalt will pitch OK in relief, but will be yanked after throwing more pitches than he should have, & a non-Lidge 'Stro will give up s'more runs & possibly lose the lead. LaRussa will micro-manage to death (cf. the 9th inning of Game 3), allowing the Astros to score a few off of various Cardinal bullpen chumpzillas to take back the lead. Lidge closes it out in the 9th, throwing 15 pitches, 13 for strikes. And a game in the best NLCS no one really talked about will FINALLY have the spotlight all to itself. Astros 7, Cardinals 5.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

WRT: The Rocket. Well he is 42 years old.

2004 Pre-Allstar: 2.62 ERA
2004 Post-Allstar: 3.41 ERA

Both respectable but telling.

And he pitches very well in the Astrodome:
2004 Home: 2.71 ERA
2004 Away: 3.43 ERA

Unfortunately, this ain't the Astrodome.

And how has the Rocket been faring under pressure?
First there's last year's Championship Series Game 7 and the Rocket got the quick hook after pitching four innings of 4 run ball. Not to mention this other highly-watched game a couple months ago where Mark Mulder nobly took 3 strikes looking to get out of the inning.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Gygax!, are you goofin' re: references to the Astrodome in place of the Juice Box?

Clemens was a solid guy in 1986. Somehwere along the way (against those damn Oakland teams & DAVE STEWART), he became a chicken choker. He remained a choker until that one-hitter against the Mariners - then he was clutch. Now, I believe he's in that nebulous region where it's OK for ill-informed generalizing announcers to call him "clutch" because of that one-hitter & his overall excellence as a pitcher in the post-season, along w/ his excellent start earlier in the series. This, of course, disregards his struggles against the Braves in the NLDS (a LOT of walks in the first start, very solid in his 2nd despite the 3 days' rest), but as everyone knows in the field once named after Enron, numbers are there to be used (or ignored) to your advantage.

So I guess this means Clemens is actually a clutch choker. Hott.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

If the home/away split means anything for pitchers, we're toast re: Suppan. Clemens definitely makes me nervous.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Clemens/Oswalt/Lidge, but won't be shocked if the Cards get em early. If Brad gets the save opp, it's over.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

home/away split means nothing here as far as i'm concerned bnw. but i think the astros have to be huge favorites here.

lidge is not superhuman but there's been every indication this year that the cardinals simply cannot hit the guy (2 hits against in 17 and two thirds total innings, i shit thee not)

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

but he's pitched a fuckload lately. I am hoping his arm pops off.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully craig biggio will pull a johnny damon tonight.

-- fortunate hazel (fhaze...), October 21st, 2004 9:39 AM. (f. hazel)

eek!!!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i was hinting at, bnw. lidge has pitched a lot, but then, not as much as one would first think (he's been efficient, esp. lately). i'm certainly not banking on any kind of collapse from him.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

looking grim :(

clemens is getting a nice fat strike zone... cards get hosed in a call at first by don denkinger's ghost.

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

watching this is just torture. and the cards did get hosed on that call.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree. are these games ever fun???

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

:):):):):):)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

no, not fun at all.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

bet the astros are feeling really good about all those stranded runners about now.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

what a funny game. Two pitches, 3 runs.

in his old age, it seems if Clemens hits a wall he ALWAYS hits it in the 6th.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Clemens looks utterly bewildered (sames as he always did against the A's all those years.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

6 outs............

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

3.......

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Why isn't John commenting on how bullshit Tony Womack's injury is? I'd think he'd be outraged.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

W00T!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Cue up the Enos Slaughter / Jim Lonborg v. Bob Gibson footage!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Did bnw faint?

Anyway, congrats to the Cards. Should be a good one...

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

& fucking hell was Reggie Sanders blessed by the Pope or something way back when? 3 World Series appearances in 4 years, all on different teams?

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think bnw is having the victory sex.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

haha that was so damn sweet :)

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i so wish i was in the Lou right now

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yay cardinals! yay scott rolen!! now kick red sox ass!!! maybe nelly can sing the national anthem?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought i would really enjoy this game but instead: letdown. i felt totally flat all game, but some part of my befogged brain knows this is good, because i like the cardinals and i don't like the red sox.

alex that is a silly thing to say.

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"yay scott rolen" ??

what kind of Philly fan are you??

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

A Philly phan that was smart enough not to phall for phucking Bowa's bullshit power play manipulations.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041022/i/r727097375.jpg

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

cry cry cry

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

the astros could have very easily won this series. had edmonds not made *that catch* early on...

― bnw (bnw), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i just found out biggio and beltran signed a letter in support of president bush, so now i feel a bit better about them losing.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 22 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, what a series! Congratulations to the Cardinals and their fans. I believe that Jim Edmonds catch is what won this game for them tonight. Not pitching around Pujols and Rolen in the 6th hurt, but not as bad as zero base hits for the Astros after the 4th inning. Although the Astros hit the ball hard throughout the game, the Cardinals just out-defensed them. Just look at the top of the 8th. Beltran hits a bullet up the middle, but Renteria had him shaded that way, Bagwell hits a laser beam that Renteria picks up off his shoe-tops. Berkmans hits a shot up the middle that nicks Tavarez's glove, slowing it enough for Renteria to make the play on it. The Cardinals were the better team tonight and for the season.

― boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 22 October 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Giving up a two-run double to BRAD AUSMUS = The Kiss of Death. Seeing Edmonds make that unbelievable catch brought the following question to mind: WHERE THE HELL IS KENT BOTTENFIELD NOW YOU STUPID ANGELS? (Not to say that acquiring Adam Kennedy didn't pay off - 2002 was his (only?) year - but, geez, KENT BOTTENFIELD?)

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Which Fox dope did I hear credit the Cards with a "small ball" identity? How small were Pujols' 2B and Rolen's HR?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that was Thom Brennamen who was saying that. Yeah, kinda ridiculous when the tying and winning runs were scored on a Pujols double and a Rolen dinger.

― boldbury (boldbury), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I was waiting for Thom to annoint Reggie Sanders and Craig Biggio as "future Hall-of-Famers". In his defense, they did little ball their first run (though the rally did start on a double, but it was by Tony Womack).

WHAT I JUST REALIZED: The Sox traded Womack to the Cards in Spring Training!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, Bidge only has like 1200 more hits than Sanders. He may not be a lock for the HOF, but lumping him in with Sanders is kind of an insult. Sanders has had a nice career, but is he even in the HOF conversation? I know Biggio is.

― boldbury (boldbury), Saturday, 23 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.