thoughts on international play

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are any teams doing things significantly differently than MLB ones? it seems to me like other squads in the WBC treat their starters less like some totemic quarterback figure and more like just other pieces in the puzzle. what do you think, dear readers? is there anything else you've noticed?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 05:13 (twenty years ago)

USA = does not care abt international play (cf. we is americuns, ho hum. we bomb u cuntry)

REST OF WORLD = cares abt int'l play (cf. who's the man now, dog/DR/Cuba/PR/Japans/Korias we are masters of regional supremacies)

In all seriousness, making the Final 4 has the potential to be bigger than the title game liek the NCAA, where the regional titles are more significant in a nationalistic sense.

Should've Never Give Jimmy Mod Money (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 17 March 2006 05:46 (twenty years ago)

the wbc has totally become the battle of the hemispheres!

this cuban pitcher, romero, threw breaking balls on 3-0, i thought that was cool.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)

cuban pitching coach says "for decades, we have taught pitchers to be aggressive. but that doesn't mean fastballs. it means using everything."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 06:26 (twenty years ago)

it's funny, from a national standpoint, i thought usa getting killed in the hoops championship was a bigger deal, but i think losing is utltimately a good thing for the comp and for the usa getting its act together.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Both using starters like pieces in the puzzle AND throwing a big repertoire reminds me of Casey Stengel, who unlike contemporary MLB slippers actually managed.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

or skippers, even

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I think slippers is more appropriate.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Is it really a big surprise to anyone here that the best MLB players are NOT from the USA?

With the exception of the Cuban and South Korean teams (who's best player played for Bobby Valentine's Chiba Lotte Marines who took the 2005 Japan League Series), the highlights have been dominated by guys who are everyday MLB stars.

*Except for the 18 year old who threw the no-hitter for the Netherlands against Panama, but he's in the SF Giants system anyways.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Joe Sheehan's BP article today is bordering on the hysterical.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

How, in these times when America is under attack from all corners of the globe, its ideals treated as punchlines and its soldiers fighting and dying for the freedom of other nations, can these young men who make their fortune thanks in part to the people of this country be so sanguine about representing it on the highest stage? Is patriotism dead, at least among the members of the MLBPA?

Uh yeah Joe.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

It is comforting that even the BP crowd occassionally loses it completely and gets all Joe Morgan-type frothing at the mouth.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

YSI?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4876

I'm not a subscriber. Maybe Morbs can post the funnies that you have to pay to read.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:39 (twenty years ago)

As with Munich... Alex doesn't get it!

I should hold a special place in my dark heart for Alex Rodriguez, the Dominican-American Hamlet whose waffling on his personal home team was the background for his inability to play the hero in last night's final inning. With a chance to finally perform on a big stage, to shed the labels that he has so richly earned, he instead drew a measly walk, passing the buck to the defensive-minded, offensively challenged Vernon Wells. Wells, you might know, doesn't make $25 million a season, doesn't have MVP awards on his shelf, and doesn't strike terror in the hearts of pitchers. Wells may have grounded into the WBC-ending double play, but it was Rodriguez's spitting the bit that set up the moment. Moreover...

...OK, I obviously can't keep that routine up any longer. Maybe I'll never get to be on "Around the Horn."

The fact is, my nationality aside, I'm more than a little pleased that the U.S. team didn't make the WBC semifinals. I like the chaos for one, and that the carefully crafted marketing campaign will now be without most of its familiar faces. I think the U.S.'s loss--and quite frankly, its disappointing showing throughout the tournament--highlights both the good and the bad of the event. There should be the possibility of upsets in an event like this; upsets are what make the NCAA tournament so wonderful, and certainly MLB is aiming for that kind of passion in the WBC.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

I didn't think the first quoted paragraph sounded right.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Haha damn I should figured it was all a joke! ;) That opening paragraph seemed slightly out of character.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Also I would like to clarify that I DID watch the end of Munich haha.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

(PAGING: Alex in SF & Morbs, please report to ILF please?)

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

I heard you went for popcorn during the houseboat execution. PUNK'D!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I wish. I was too busy picking a scab by that point.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

watching the cuba/dom game right now, havent had a chance to watch many, and must profess ignorance. if the enterprise is successful, are they aiming to make this an annual, or a replacement for the olympics drop?

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:23 (twenty years ago)

i don't think it will be annual, but i can't remember what they were saying about it. i think the success of this year's tournament may affect what happens next time - i.e. what happens if they decide to dedicate more time to it i.e. longer qualifying stages or whatnot?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 19 March 2006 05:01 (twenty years ago)

Somehow i missed that the next one is planned for '09.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

They should have made it every year or two at the max to start with in order to build momentum and prestige. Four years is a long time for something with questionable support in its largest market for now.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
Have there been any new/recent studies of the effect of WBC on MLB pitchers?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)


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