Eclipse's Sun City Girls reissues: SO CLASSIC

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Volume 3 just came out. Sweet.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pkms.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scg1.jpg

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't listened to the first one, which I bought last year.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

which records are they reissuing and should i get rid of any first editions to any collectors?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

TAPES, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Already out:

God Is My Solar System
Superpower

Bleach Has Feelings Too
Cover Up Your Right To Live

Fresh Kill of A Cape Hunting Dog
Def In Italy

Gonna be 8 volumes total, and each volume is a double LP set. First set is out of print already. I can't imagine the second is gonna stick around too much longer. Don't sell the original tapes if ya got em, because according to suncitygirls.com, the reissues contain both additions and deletions.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

available direct from ED HARDY at eclipse-records.com!

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if vol. 2 & 3 are sold out?

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Highly recommended: the version of "Summertime Blues" on Cover Up Your Right To Live.

2 is still listed on Eclipse's site and 3 just came out this week, so it's almost definitely still around. Don't even think it's in stores yet, not is it listed on the Eclipse page. It was in their update this week.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"not is it listed"??? wtf. "not even listed" is what i meant to say.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, SCG S&D because their catalog is vast and I only own a tiny portion of it. We can also discuss the FUCKING AMAZING Sublime Frequencies series. My favorite moments of that series are the Samsimar tracks on Folk & Pop Sounds Of Sumatra.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn. I never did get that God Is My Solar System / Superpower one. Hard to keep up with those guys.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Night Recordings in Bali is SHEER HELLISH AWESOMENESS.

Radio Morocco is SHEER HELLISH OK-NESS.

I LIKE SCG'S T0RCH 0F TEH MYSTIX & VALENTIN3Z for M4T4H4RI & TEH CARNIVAL FOLKLORE VOLUME 7, MAYBE??? 5 too!!.

― ddb (ddb), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah okay, I don't have any SCG tapes (just LPs and 7"s).

I would highly recommend the aforementioned Torch of the Mystics if you don't already have it Ian. Hstencil makes fun of me for my love of Midnight Cowboys From Ipanema but I've heard worse.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

when did I make fun of you for that? I own it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I love "Sweet City Woman".

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it was Jack Cole who made fun of me. He is a mean old billygoat that one.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

not me. i like midnight. it makes me larf. "midnight at the oasis" baby.

― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I WAS GONNA START A WHOLE 'WHAT'S UP WITH THE SUN CITY GIRLS' THREAD ON ILM, BUT I THINK I'LL JUST CONFINE IT TO HERE. ARE THEY OVERRATED? I HAD A FEW OF THEIR RECORDS BACK IN THE DAY. WAS UNIMPRESSED WITH:

1. ARROGANT 'WE ARE SO INTELLIGENT AND TRIPPY' VIBE
2. COMPOSITIONAL AND IMPROVISATIONAL SKILLS
3. SLOPPY PLAYIN'
4. CRAP SOUND

Thx,

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

SCG are commited to releasing every fucking shitty jam they record. Which is their downfall, and why I limit my purchases of their material to stuff I've heard good stuff abt. That said, they can be really good. I think my favorites are The Handsome Stranger and Bright Surroundings Dark Beginnings.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

SCG are commited to releasing every fucking shitty jam they record.

This is especially disconcerting considering how they seem to purposely limit all their releases and then sell them for hundreds of dollars on their website. But maybe I'm wrong there. I haven't even heard a lick of them because its all so expensive. Maybe I should slsk some stuff.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim Ellison you bother me. Can we trade him for Tony Rettman?

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

its all so expensive

* except for the afformentioned reissues. so nevermind.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Most of their CD releases in print can be had for $15 or less if your record shop bothers to stock them.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim, you just haven't heard the right records perhaps? It's cliche to say that Torch of the Mystics is the best because it's amongst their most accessible and was the only CD in print for ages and ages, but if you've heard that and aren't impressed, I'd definately give up. If you haven't heard that and have only heard random snippets of say Dawn of the Devi and Midnight Cowboys or whatever, then you owe it to sit down with Torch of the Mystics.

I also like Bright Surroundings Dark Beginnings, Horse Cock Phephner and Kaliflower, and remember liking Grotto of Miracles but haven't heard it since college and can't afford it.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

have any of you ever checked out this: http://markprindle.com/suncity.htm

say what you will, but he has listening to a shit load of sun city girls.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

haha what gd timing- I've been listening to cjr radio 2 CD set and its another one to search.

Just how the fuck are they shitty improvisers? What's so sloppy abt their playing?

plz explain

k thx,

Julio

One of the tracks on cjr is a jam and I liked it, most of the stuff I've heard is gd to great actually. But there's lots on that one...from spoken word to playing along to sumatran pop.

They release lots but its not like you need everything, and don't ever buy expensive stuff. C'mon ppl this is like the basics!!! slsk has loads too.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i want to live in the world where being familiar w/The Sun City Girls is 'the basics'

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

so do I.

anyway, on ilm:

Sun City Girls: classic or dud?
Sun City Girls - OPO
S & D: Sun City Girls
This Sun City Girls reissue destroys everything / anything you are listening to today (this is what you want Ian)
POO: Sun City Girls Carnival Folklore Resurrection

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I may not have heard the right records. Sorry to bother HPENCIL.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Learn from the Master.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

alan bishop is one of the nicest and great guys in music i have met -- as well as great musician along with his brother and charles. scg forever.

― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

See, part of my perspective is based on reading stuff like this:

"Every American should be forced to relocate, at some point, somewhere in the Third World for a year, just so they can get a few spikes pounded into their heads, and let the blood run out and hopefully die right there on the street. But death is change, according to the tarot..." (Alan Bishop, in Forced Exposure interview ca. late '80s)

Uh, no thanks, there, buddy.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what is your perspective on "Holiday in Cambodia?"

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Tim, what do you think of BANANAFISH?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

JOKE JOKE JOKE ALERT -- ALSO, PART OF ALAN'S ROUTINE (though to a certain extent he does believe the ideas at the core, he just exaggerates them in a comical rant format)

― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Tim, I mean, how you could take that Alan B quote at face value, um, I dunno what to tell you.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I WASN'T looking at it at face value. Look at it in context of the whole interview and, as Jack alludes to, it comes off as part joke/part serious. (And, you know, as far as stuff like that being jokes...I mean, haha? Is it really funny? "Holiday in Cambodia" is OK, I guess...)

G!, I have not bought Bananafish in a long time! There were some great interviews in the old issues, which I still have. (Best: both of the Royal Trux interviews.) I think the last one I got was number nine.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, that quote would have been funny if he would have just ended it there, with that bit about the Tarot. He doesn't, though; he goes on from there, talkin' more smack about how Americans should be keeled.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps the greatest thing ever said on ILM:

Anyway, I'd rather listen to the Girls' worst records than ever have to hear another note of Momus.

-- hstencil (...), November 5th, 2001.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

finally the recognition I deserve. Thanks Ian!

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

have any of you heard the alvarius b/cerberus shoal split? there is this song about dead babies that is pretty funny.

― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

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