Gary Panter vs. M.Brinkman

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jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

could a mod fix the first image? pretty pretty pretty please?

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

jack, I'm adding you as a mod

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks, jon!

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

haven't seen much of M. Brinkman's art, though I was impressed with a film shown while Forcefield played at the 103.9 some time ago. I was less impressed with the music and liked Mindflayer a little bit more(but not much) when I played records at a show of theirs at the local(Russ or Fitz's?)

But as a long long longtime Panter fan, I'm gonna assume Gary Panter. I'm not as positive about his music, but I've bought 3 copies of the Italian Sunglass Movie 7" on Ralph for the fold-out poster alone, one of which is proudly mounted and hung on my wall above my records. I also have a Jimbo T-Shirt my mother bought for me when I was 14, but sadly it's not fitting so well anymore.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

why choose?

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 22 August 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I did the Forcefield show
Fitz did the Mindflayer show

Russ (Russ), Sunday, 22 August 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Forcefield was the world's punkest band until they broke up. I've got a couple of Brinkman silkscreens hanging on my wall; that guy is a treat.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 22 August 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

you dont have to choose, h. i just put them up together because 1) i like them both and 2) i think there are similarities in their work and i wonder if visually panter was an influence on brinkman.

as for panter music, i like the "Precambrian Bath" 7" he did with Rick Potts that came with Invasion Of The Elvis Zombies.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ian, FREAKZONE is the world's punkest band.

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(p.s. i have never seen anything by Panter, so I can't really ch00ze.)

Jon: You weren't at the Freakzone show where they nearly destroyed AS220 by throwing chairs and firing soda cans out of a cannon and breaking a toilet they "found in the basement."

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ian, if you ever feel the itch, there's lots of stuff @ www.garypanter.com. also, panter did all of the set design, etc for PeeWee's Playhouse,

Osmond G. Ristle (ogr), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched Pee Wee's Playhouse when I was a kid, but I've never seen any of those other pieces before.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you've never seen the cover to the first Red Hot Chili Peppers record?

anywho, he did lots of work for the Residents and Ralph Records, as well as a few Zappa covers that Frank apparently hated. The first piece is the Screamers logo, he was heavily involved in the west coast punk scene. His wife managed the Germs at some point.

But he designed much of the look of Pee-Wee's Playhouse, the furniture, the characters etc.

He lives in Williamsburg now, I think. Tunde from TV on the Radio is a comics artists/fan and told me some story that he was walking down the street and saw some guy on a stoop and was like "aren't you Gary Panter?" and he was invited in and they ended up smoking pot and talking about comic books and stuff.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ha. That's nuts. Do you know which Zappa covers he did? I might've seen some of those. (And somehow, yes, I have never owned the first RHCP album, or any RHCP album.)

Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember the name, they're on the panter website, and once you get used to his style, you'll recognize them anyway.

When I was a younger Nite Flight would show, as part of their "Atomic TV", the video for True Men Don't Kill Coyotes and it was just the weirdest, coolest thing I'd ever seen or heard. I got the record and didn't much care for the rest of it, or really much else they ever did. I'm gonna go download that song and see how it stands up in an act of nostalgia.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

cindy lauper video, "she bop". all panter art world.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

listening now...Red Hot Chili Peppers are watered down white-funk version of Meat Puppets and Butthole Srufers. At least this song. In other words everything I used to like about this song I've since discovered much better similar sounds from those other bands.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember that "True Men Don't Kill Coyotes" video. I saw it on MTV at the time, I had never heard of the band before that. Did Panter do set design for the vid?

Blood Sugar Sex Magic is their best album, the only one I still own (although I'd probably be inclined to pick up Freaky Stylee if I found a copy for a couple bucks.) It's got that great 1970s in-the-same-room Rick Rubin sound and the band were at their tightest and swingingest. Frusciante's playing outstanding. More rock than funk.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, can I get banned from the noise board for writing that? should I have mentioned my Kapotte Muziek/Merzbow split LP or my Wolf Vostell artist record?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

john frusciante >>> red hot chili peppers. too bad he needs them. have you heard any of frusciante's recent stuff, eyeballs?

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

No, actually! I have never heard any of the solo albums, but I've always been intrigued. Just one of those things I've slacked off on getting around to, but I want to hear them.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

also, Mark Beyer is the cat's miaow (and nice guy).

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jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the frusciante is more a niggling curiosity that i might satisfy if i find one of the albums used.

jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark Beyer's another RAW artist with much record art on his resume. The Coldcut LP, John Zorn's Spy Vs. Spy, and umm, some other things I think.

I learned about him because on an episode of MTV News, Kurt Loder held up a copy of the Agony book and it looked cool. I have tons of his stuff, including the recent Chip Kidd collection of all of the Amy and Jordan strips.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

TERATOID HEIGHTS >>> JIMBO

dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.highwaterbooks.com/teratoid_book.html

Highwater Books is honored to present the first major book from cartoonist/musician Mat Brinkman, a founding member of the Fort Thunder art collective. A widely influential creator frequently compared to the legendary punk cartoonist and gallery painter Gary Panter,

I will check it out and pass my judgement. At the very least, even if Brinkman's book is really great, credit should be due to Panter for doing it 20 years earlier. And I haven't seen the Jimbo in Purgatory collection, but haven't liked Panter's art as much now as then. Perhaps it's because he's drawing for a different size(the standard comic) but there's a quality in Jimbo's Adventure's in Paradise that I found lacking in the Jimbo comic books.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 23 August 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Zappa records Panter did were Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt...uh...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, that gary panter book is HUGE!

your little image up there ain't doin it justice.

i think it's bigger than the quimbys.
m.

msp (msp), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe the same size -- i bought me a copy a few days a go, but havent tackled it yet. right now reading Persepolis 2.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 26 August 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

now that i'm back in nashville, i have the hook up to good stuff at a pretty good comic book store. i'm glad. i haven't bought much in that direction in a while. the little nemo compilation is taking forever. hey sue's!
m.

msp (msp), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0435/wolk.php

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)


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